RE: [ha-Safran]: Deir Yassin, again

[Rabenstein, Bernie]

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To: Rabenstein, Bernie
Subject: Re: Difficulties in interpretation

To:  Bernie Rabenstein

Please see instruction sheet H 830 in the Subject Cataloging Manual:
Subject Headings.  In Sec. 1, it is stated, "Divide historic kingdoms, former 
jurisdictions, extinct cities, etc., that lie wholly within a currently 
existing jurisdiction through that jurisdiction."  In Sec. 6 on deletion of 
qualifiers, it is stated:  "Retain in parentheses any other data included in 
the qualifier to differentiate the heading,
including names of obsolete jurisdictions."   Therefore, the correct
geographic subdivision form of
Dayr Yāsīn (Palestine) is $z Israel $z Dayr Yāsīn (Palestine).  I have just 
corrected the 781 in the n 85142451 to that form.  This is a Palestinian 
village that ceased to exist.  It is used indirectly through Israel because its 
location is within the current country.

Lynn El-Hoshy
Senior Cataloging Policy Specialist
LC CPSO
 


>>> "Rabenstein, Bernie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/25/07 2:13 PM >>>
Dear friends,

            How does one interpret this subject authority?


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Subject: FW: [ha-Safran]: Deir Yassin, again

Heb-NACOers,

I'm forwarding this question from my friend Margo Gutstein at the Simon
Wiesenthal Center since it is really a cataloging question.  Any ideas
from our LC colleagues?

Caroline

Caroline R. Miller
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and Authority/Database Maintenance Sections
UCLA Library Cataloging & Metadata Center
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Gutstein
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:02 PM
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Subject: [ha-Safran]: Deir Yassin, again

I sent this about a week ago, and I got only one response, so I'm going
to
ask the question again; perhaps I didn't explain my question clearly
enough.

I am cataloging a pamphlet on Deir Yassin (Deir Yassin: History of a
Lie,
by Morton A. Klein), and I'm having trouble with the subject
headings.  I've looked in LC Authorities, and the heading for Deir
Yassin
is Dayr Yasin (Palestine).  Subdivision usage is established through
Israel
(i.e. [Subject]--Israel--Dayr Yasin (Palestine)).

Since the village of Deir Yassin no longer exists, we can't follow the
normal LC rule of assigning the qualifier according to the current
location.  But Deir Yassin doesn't really qualify as an extinct city
either.  So would the qualifier be Palestine because at the most recent
time when Deir Yassin existed it was part of the British Mandate?  And
is
there an established heading for the British Mandate?  I didn't see one.

And if the qualifier is Palestine because of the British Mandate, how
can
we subdivide through Israel?

I am thoroughly confused, but perhaps it's very simple and I just don't
know the relevant rule.  Can anyone explain?

Thank you,
Margo

Margo Gutstein
Technical Services Librarian
Simon Wiesenthal Center
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