Menarik juga.
Apa sama dengan istilah Geologiawan yang sering kita dikumandangkan ?
Geologi di atas awan,..... gimana Mas Maryanto, posisi bulan sudah menurun
nih..
Heri F
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From: "Rovicky Dwi Putrohari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <iagi-net@iagi.or.id>; "Himpunan Ahli Geofisika Indonesia HAGI"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: [iagi-net-l] Re: [IATMI-KL] Fw: multiple signatures RESULTS so far
Ngga perlu disebar gimana, wong mail kamu ini selalu dibaca oleh orang
awam juga. Dan bahkan bisa diketemukan kalau di "search" di gugle atau
yahu.
Btw, kalau memang ada pengaruh elektromagnetis terhadap stress batuan,
ini mungkin menarik utk mengamati "earthquake-prone area".
Kalau awan itu memang akibat elektromagnetik mengapa sewaktu gempa
susulan tak terlihat ? Padahal mekanisme gempa susulan kan juga teori
elastic rebound kan ?
Saya kok lebih yakin kalau awan itu fenomena meteorologi bukan
fenomena geologi, Jadi awan "lebih ditentukan" oleh kondisi
meteorologi daerah itu, misalnya angin, suhu, kelembaban dan juga
topografi (morfologi). Jadi kalau menghubungkan awan dengan gempa ya
seperti jauh panggang dari api.
Frank, coba tengok fotonya Pak Isra yg diambil di KL, apakah ada
hubungan dengan electromagnetis juga di KL ? Atau malah akan ada gempa
di KL ?
rdp
On 7/14/06, Franciscus B Sinartio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hallo semuanya,
ini untuk konsumsi kita saja,
tidak perlu disebar ke masyarakat umum.
saya posting disini supaya kita bisa tahu ttg metode2 yang dipakai
beberapa orang untuk prediksi gempa.
ini adalah hasil diskusi beberapa ahli (saya hanya pendengar) dengan
berbagai macam data mereka.
katanya waktu terjadinya awan vertical tsb, DR. HOLLIS-WATTS juga
mengamati adanya aktifitas EM di ionosphere.
tetapi seperti kata Pak ADB, bisa saja ini disebabkan oleh pergeseran
bumi yang menyebabkan gempa2 kecil yang masih terus dirasakan sampai
sekarang didaerah tsb.
fbs
nb: yang mau bacaan ttg electric properties dari batuan sebelum dan
sesudah gempa terjadi, bisa saya forwardkan lewat japri, soalnya filenya
besar2 dan ada beberapa.
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From: Phillip HOLLIS-WATTS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Seiya UYEDA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:53:34 AM
Subject: Fw: multiple signatures RESULTS so far
Hi,
It may be prudent to mention to Indonesian authority;that there exists a
possibility of another EQ event near Merapi.
Phillip
It looked like a M5 but!
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Franciscus B Sinartio"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Chen I-wan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom
Bleier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John S. Derr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "France
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: multiple signatures RESULTS so far
> Hi,
> We do have matching records of the times mentioned and we saw a pre EQ
> event as well I am going to check with geosciences magnetic records if
> they are on line yet?
> Phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Friedemann Freund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Phillip HOLLIS-WATTS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Franciscus B
> Sinartio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Chen I-wan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom
> Bleier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John S. Derr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "France
> St-Laurent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: multiple signatures RESULTS so far
>
>
>> Phil,
>>
>> lately I have been overwhelmed by too many messages and only caught up
>> today with the interesting information that you ping-ponged forth and
>> back with Franciscus. Surely the vertical cloud reported by him (and
>> others in the region) looks similar to the vertical cloud photographed
>> in Japan before the Jan. 1995 Kobe earthquake.
>>
>> I am attaching a paper that we wrote on earthquake lights in the
>> latest
>> issue of Phys. Chem. Earth. In it we develop the idea that, when rapid
>> stress increase causes more p-holes to be generated than can be
>> dissipated (conducted away), a state must eventually be reached in the
>> Earth's crust which we describe as solid state plasma. It arises when
>> the (highly delocalized) wavefunctions associated with the p-hole
>> charge carriers start to overlap. At some critical p-hole
>> concentration
>> the rocks will then abruptly change from an insulator to a
>> quasi-metal.
>> We speculate that such a solid state plasma will be inherently
>> unstable. It may or even should break out of its confinement. The
>> vertical "clouds" reported before earthquakes may be cases where such
>> a
>> violent (electric/magnetic) outbreak took place, causing massive air
>> ionization and, probably, light emission. Maybe the outbreak is like
>> an
>> electric jet coming out of the ground. Due to the heating during
>> recombination of the ionized air, the air will rise.
>>
>> What would be good to have are radio records of that time from
>> locations not too far away. If the process that I describe occurs,
>> and
>> if the observation times of vertical clouds can be pinned with
>> sufficient accuracy, there must be massive, massive radiofrequency
>> bursts, probably with a sharp onset and a trailing decay.
>> Unfortuantely, most radio station operators would tend to filter out
>> such "noise". Any suggestions?
>>
>> Friedemann
>>
>>
>> --- Phillip HOLLIS-WATTS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Attached data shows mechanism that starts electromagnetic
>>> procedure,sorry for inverted page/s Last page shows (I inserted) the
>>> mechanism of my P-H pulses detection of ions being excreted by
>>> enormous electrical discharges under the ground and then the
>>> mechanism of rotating ions are detected by RADAR system. The
>>> electromagnetic are also recorded by Chen I_wan of China's MDCB
>>> (magnetic system) we are generally in agreement of where the EQ is to
>>> be.
>>> Attached.
>>> 1. Freund's data his input was critical in my understanding of how my
>>> system was reading enormous energy for ions to be excited)
>>>
>>> 2. Sergey Pulinets ionospheric data. (his input was critical in my
>>> understanding of what my system was reading)
>>>
>>> I found it interesting that Bantul showed the cloud was also on 11th
>>> July,2006 @ 0830-1000ut we had an event NW M5 , I will pass the data
>>> on to the Turkish researchers as they also look for cloud preceding
>>> EQ events.
>>> More data if required.
>>> Phil
>>> what is latitude and longitude of Bantul (I know it is close to
>>> Merapi as I have a pix of Java's on my desktop showing Merapi's smoke
>>> as well as other volcanoes smoking. )
>>> By the way we see some more activity Near North Is. of New Zealand. I
>>> have ccd Prof Freund and Prof Sergey PULINETS as well as Chen I-WAN
>>> of China's research area
>>>
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>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Phillip HOLLIS-WATTS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: Franciscus B Sinartio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:40:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: muliple signatures RESULTS so far
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Can you please lat long of Bantul and day/ time in UT or GMT
>>> please ? Yes , it is true that Earth Quake clouds, do precede
>>> Earthquake events.
>>> What do you do? Are you a seismologist?
>>> on 8th we had an event towards Java M 5 @0130UT on 11th july,2006 @
>>> 0830-1000ut we had an event NW M5 (I do not report all that I see as
>>> no one seems interested.)
>>> Phil
>>>
>
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