Rod Little
Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:53:05 -0700
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Gregorich, Steven wrote:
Hi, David.
It sounds like you are talking about a zero-inflated model, e.g., a
zero-inflated Poisson (ZIP) or zero-inflated negative
binomial (ZINB). You could also fit a zero-inflated normal model (ZIN; Joe
Schafer and a colleague wrote a paper
about that model in the late 1990's; they called it a 'two-part model'). I
never studied the ZIN model closely, but
presumably the normal part of the model would allow negative predicted values,
which I would not be happy with
in your application.
You can fit a 2-level multilevel ZIP, ZIN, ZINB, etc in PROC NLMIXED and you
can probably find related SAS
code in the SAS-L archives; especially posts by Dale McLerran (sp?).
HTH
Steve
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:25:33 -0400
From: David Judkins <judki...@westat.com>
Subject: [Impute] Robustness of Multi-Level Modeling Software
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This is not an imputation question, but I don't know of a list serve for
complex modeling questions. Maybe one of you will be able to help.
Consider a mixed binary-normal distribution that results in a large point mass
on the edge of an otherwise more-or-less normal distribution. An example is
number of alcoholic drinks per day. Cigarettes per day is another example. Or
the number of questions reading questions answered correctly on a sample that
contains a large number of children who can't read at all. The child reading
example is my real concern because the children come grouped by school.
Anyone know of robustness studies of MLwin, HLM, Mixed, MPLUS, et cetera to
this radical departure from normality? I have heard it asserted that
school-level departures from normality are more of a concern than student-level
departures, but is this too much of a departure?
David Judkins
Senior Statistician
Westat
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