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RE: Questions about linux ..

Douglas Wagner
Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:49:23 -0500

No offense to you ryan by using you as an example in this case, but this 
goes back to a previous argument that appeared on this list.  For linux to 
truely be accepted in any of the desktop communities, it's going to have to 
find some way to RELIABLY (even at all) support microsoft products.  Yes, 
we could suggest he use Word Perfect 8 (downloadable from any major 
download site), and learn HTML....but you can't make this type of 
suggestion to corporations.  The unfortunate and bad reality here is that 
too many people use MS applications.  If Linux ever supported MS apps, MS 
would be in DEEP trouble.

To answer your question Ryan, Linux is a freeware operating system of the 
UNIX flavor.  It is an incredibly stable UNIX os that includes a window 
manager and command line interface.  However, and i'm going to get massivly 
flamed for this right now, it's uses are mostly in software development. 
 LINUX does not, and probably never will, support MS-Office products.  If 
you use MS products, LINUX probably will not work for you.  You will get 
many people telling you it is a superior operating system, and it IS a 
superrior operating system, but mostly in ways a normal end user couldn't 
care less about.  It handles running multiple programs much better than MS, 
it is MUCH more stable and rarely if ever crashes.  It is built to stay up 
and running for ages (a linux box I used to administrate was up for well 
over 7 months, and it only came down when power to the University it was 
running at was cut accidentaly).  There are 3 or 4 basic text editors, a 
kick ass c/c++ compiler, it will support Netscape, and there are a few 
commercial applications currently being developed for Linux.  All in all 
it's a wonderful operating system and a good thing to look at and play 
with.  However, if you use mostly Windows based programs, i'd say about 95% 
of what you currently use isn't and won't be supported any time soon.  I'd 
love to tell you that linux is your answer.  I'd love to say that you could 
find equivalent programs for most of what you use (and could import your 
current files).  And i'd love to say that with a bit of work or with a 
little more time you will be able to use linux for your work and drop that 
horrid piece of **** that is termed an operating system and sold only to 
milk money out of your wallet...but the truith and fact of the matter is 
that if you have a set of applications you can use, and they happen to be 
MS apps, you are sort of SOL unless you want a major headache of re-doing 
all your work.  Until someone in the linux development community realizes 
that the only thing holding Linux back from trouncing MS in the operating 
system market is Linux's complete inability to support software built for 
windows, then linux probably will never become a major operating system 
player, at least not in the desktop market.

Douglas Wagner

p.s. Yea..go ahead and roll the flames out...but I challange anyone out 
there who's planning to flame me to really contridict my statements on 
Linux's downfalls.  Yea..with enough digging and weeks of work I could 
probably replace all my software with versions supported by linux, download 
or buy converters to all the file formats I use so that things I do in 
linux could be supported and used and modified in the other worlds.  But in 
reality, no business will ever do that, and no computer user who's simply 
interested in getting work done in the easyest way possible will ever do 
that.  When I can pop a cd into my system, have it automaticaly pull up a 
box saying click here to install, it automaticaly installs all this fun 
stuff onto my computer, and I can now work with any files in the office or 
that would be sent to me across the internet i'm not sure what reason there 
is to switch to linux.  Where I have to unmount my cd, mount the instal cd, 
find where it is mounted in the filestructure, run some install script that 
(unless written by a reputable company) will as likely fail as succeed, 
have to download 15 different updated packages, run the install script 
again to get the stuff to my system, then have to type the path or filename 
on a command line to get the program to run (i'm not even going to go into 
what it would take to get the icon to be added to the menu system).  Me?  I 
love it.  I'd do that in a heartbeat for the power and responsiveness of 
the Linux Operating system.  To those of us who have used computers for 
ages and like digging into the command line and the operating system, linux 
is great...to those NORMAL users who only care about getting their work 
done, linux is simply not efficient or simple enough.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Ryan Reddell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, January 23, 1999 3:20 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Questions about linux ..

I've been hearing good thibgs about it..... but what software does it
support??  The 2 main programs I use are Front Page 98 and MS Office
99..  Is it worth it???  Where can you get it???

Thanks

Ryan


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