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[Keelynet] Bedini (and believing patents)

Jerry Decker - KN
Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:29:49 -0800

Hola Dale et al!

dale wrote:
Ahhhh Jerry,

You've become jaded. Bedini has three patents on his devices. You can't get a patent on something that doesn't work.
Walk towards the light Jerry....

Dale

Sorry, but you are in error....many, many patents don't work, never
did...you can patent ideas that are never tested.

A long time ago, the patent office required WORKING MODELS for every patent for machines, etc...but for years now, they no longer require this...as a result there are many, many patents which are pure bullshit.

Look at Lemelson..a sci-fi writer who dreamed up all kinds of stuff that
he patented but never built or tested...because he didn't need working
proof or models.

In some case, his ideas were in fact developed into working technology BY OTHERS and he jumped on them demanding money due to 'patent 'infringement' for an idea that he never built or tested....most of them paid but a few falked...he is dead now and the patent office is still broken, because they don't require working models to verify the claim.

It sucks but people are so complacent these days they don't see how it
screws up reality...and belief....lots of people parrot that claim
about, 'well, its patented so it MUST WORK'.

Nope...solely because they don't have to provide working models...so any fool can patent anything if they can pay for it...

I like to back up what I say with proof when available, here it is from the horses mouth...I'm not a believer in anything but facts, proof and working hardware though I do entertain ideas and theories as potentials awaiting proof.

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/

Models, Exhibits, And Specimens

MODELS OR EXHIBITS ARE NOT REQUIRED in MOST patent applications since
the description of the invention in the specification and the drawings
must be sufficiently full, clear, and complete and capable of being
understood to disclose the invention without the aid of a model.

A working model, or other physical exhibit, MAY BE REQUIRED required by
the Office if deemed necessary. This is not done very often. A working
model may be requested in the case of applications for patent for
alleged perpetual motion devices.

When the invention relates to a composition of matter, the applicant may
be required to furnish specimens of the composition, or of its
ingredients or intermediates, for inspection or experiment. If the
invention is a microbiological invention, a deposit of the
micro-organism involved is required.
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Now Alice, you can quit following the rabbit because you have learned something new for the day and can step out of the mirror!!! YAAAAYYY!

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