Jerry Decker - KN
Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:44:48 -0800
Hola Oddvar et al! Oddvar Molvfr wrote: > > Hi Jerry! > > Some time ago I did some search for the Clem Engine on the IN. I did > not find it, but came upon a patent held by Mr. Fred M. Siptrott of > Santa Rosa, California. > > The vortex in his invention reminded me strongly of what I have read > about Clem's invention. Actually Mr. Siptrott have registered > several patents, and when you find one, you will also find the rest. > > I have downloaded the patents and studied them , and even if Mr. > Siptrott has had the wisdom not to mention over-unity, I am sure this > must be the case of at least one of the machines. > > His invention with the vortex channel is listed under US Patent > 4,357,797; "Unified Action Hydrocentrifugal Machines." I think you > will find it clear and well explained. I wrote a letter to Mr. > Siptrott in April 2005, but had only the adress listed on the last > patent application, and he may have moved . > > I have not got any reply on my letter yet, and a search for > him on the IN gave me no new results. At least his > inventions are very interresting, and should not be too > difficult to duplicate. > > Next year I pass 65 and will be a pensionist. May be time > will come to make a duplicate of Mr. Siptrott's invention > then. But, Jerry, if you should hit upon the > man's adress, would you please mail me a few words? > > Thanks for holding up Keely-net! All the best, Jerry! > > Greetings from Oddvar Molvaer in Norway.I've heard of Siptrott and remember posting information about him and his correlation to Clem many years ago on the discussion list..unfortunately, the eScribe archive would have that info and isn't likely to ever come back up again. A search provides some detail;
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/coriolis.htmThe US patent 4357797 of Siptrott Fred M can also give some ideas how to recycle the kinetic energy of the exit stream, convert it to pressure, and feed it back to the pump (even if his claims about his device are incorrect).
--------------------He has been at this since 1966 with 4 patents now, surely some of it must work?
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4357797.WKU.&OS=PN/4357797&RS=PN/4357797 United States Patent 4,357,797 Siptrott November 9, 1982 Unified action hydrocentrifugal machines 3264827 Aug., 1966 Siptrott 3434284 Mar., 1969 Siptrott 3877835 Apr., 1975 SiptrottAnother object of my present invention is to provide hydrocentrifugal machines which incorporate the advantages of turbines which utilize two fields of energy in one operation, namely, high and low pressure, such as the high and low pressure turbines of my said U.S. Pat. No. 3,877,835.
In accordance with an additional principal feature of my invention hydrocentrifugal machines are provided in which the respective rotors embody my vortex-expeller-converter invention, which rotors operate on the basis of a universal law which I call the "inclined circle law," the operation of which law results in a kinetic differential of mass...
---------- The patent from 1982 shows his address as; Siptrott; Fred M. 3011 Hardies La., Santa Rosa, CA 95401Since his first patent was 1966 and he must have been at least 20 years old at that time...up to now, would make him roughly 20+34+5 = 59 years of age at a minimum, so there is hope he might still be around.
A phone/address search for him says; We're sorry. Your search returned no results.
Birth/Death records finds; Name: Fred M. Siptrott Birth: dd mm year Death: dd mm 1999 - city, Sonoma, California, United States of America Civil: IllinoisWhich indicates he died in 1999. Sonoma is pretty close to Santa Rosa, about 15-20 miles according to Yahoo maps;
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=&csz=sonoma%2C+california&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=Another loss....but the question always arises, what happened to their models and research, usually thrown away as garbage by the families or estate executors.
-------------------Sorry for the bad news Oddvar, but its a bit more pinned down now about the inventor, now for the claims. Take care and good luck!
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