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RE: [Keelynet] off the shelf portable generators, can they be made overunity?

Carrigan, Ken
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:40:52 -0800

Roamer,
It's not funny at all. The desulfator is a desulfator and works on sound principles and physical laws. Can you tell me what the SG is based on to make it work?  And what work is that? If your saying it is a desulfator also, why bother BUYING a bicycle wheel (I don't have one) and magnetics (how many and what is the cost), and such a LARGE object. Why not just make a 'smaller' unit that can be placed with an on/off switch ON the battery there to be used at any time? 
 
What else EXACTLY does the SG do to a lead acid battery other then desulfate?  And I object you calling me an 'disrupter' as I'm not selling or indicating overunity or COP>1.  Is the SG?  And if its not, then why bother building it?
 
And NO I do not know of any PAID DISRUPTERS do you?  All I want to know, and what others probably also want to know, is WHAT ELSE does the SG tout other then increasing efficiency?  And if I used this solid state desulfator on my new or older battery, I'd also have a fresh battery all the time (except for the lead plate slowly being eat away to normal use.
 
v/r
Ken Carrigan


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Subject: RE: [Keelynet] off the shelf portable generators, can they be made overunity?

Ken,

Ken, in anwer to your question, you shouldn't build anything. Go have another cup of coffee and forget the whole thing. No, seriously, I don't want you to.

This is funny, your words. So now you advocate what?

"Everyone should make one for their batteries to keep them fresh.
http://www.shaka.com/~kalepa/desulf.htm is a good schematic....."

Why should I build it when I can make a simpler device that works better, from junk parts if necessary? Let's not even mention the fact that my batteries are "fresh" all the time, not requiring "desulphation", just proper charging in the first place.

Bob, nothing is being spoon fed. Everything is already sitting right in your lap. It even went as far as the designer giving everyone direct assistance in understanding what they had built. Of course, that help would only apply to someone who could have made direct observations of THEIR OWN device so that they could ask the right questions.

Closed discussion groups? Of course, the first one wasn't a "members only". But, that devolved into chaos, just like every other "public" group does when the PAID DISRUPTORS start playing their games. Know anyone like that, Ken?

The only truly active construction group is the "Bedini Monopole" yahoo group. Of the others, one is dormant and the other is pure chaos.

If you build it, you can study it. If you don't, you can't.

That's about as simple as it gets. And, it's the only thing that I really have left to say on this subject. It's all out there on the various publicly displayed websites.

I'm not trying to sell anything. Do as you will.

Poof.

R



On 23 Nov 2005 at 21:24, Carrigan, Ken wrote:

> Fundamentally, SG uses lead acid but also applies to Gel. Check out this
> site for explanation as to what I think is happening. Sulfate is going
> back into solution, which was deposited on the lead plates much more
> readily. 2-6MHz spectral pulse will do this, at 2x voltage easily.
> Everyone should make one for their batteries to keep them fresh.
> http://www.shaka.com/~kalepa/desulf.htm is a good schematic.....