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RE: [Keelynet] off the shelf portable generators, can they be made overunity?

roamer
Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:12:08 -0800

Ken,

 I hate wasting bandwidth on this anymore. What you choose to do, or not to do,
doesn't mean anything to me, at all.

 "...based on sound principals..."

Why do you continue to think that the laws of physics need to be defeated in 
order 
to give you what you need? I don't believe that they need defeating.

BTW, I wasn't suggesting that you were "selling" anything at all.

I think it's mildly amusing that you are going off the deep end because I've 
suggested that people should do some experiments for themselves. THAT is the 
behavior that I find extremely suspect, in reference to the "disruptor" label. 
You fit 
the bill. It appears that you only wish to preemptively dissuade anyone from 
even 
trying. Why is that?

As I understood from long ago, one of the main ideas of Keelynet, in the first 
place, 
was to promote and observe alternate energy science and experimentation.

You've done your job well, Ken, seriously.

As one of the "shirtless ones" I like having a basic understanding of what's 
needed 
to get a battery bank charged, or to get some sulphated batteries restored 
(when 
possible).

I like knowing that if I can scrounge up a bit of SCRAP wire and only a few 
SCRAP 
parts, I can build a device that runs EVERY TIME and produces just about the 
same 
performance EVERY TIME, once it's tuned.

I also like knowing that it can be done PURELY MECHANICALLY with little 
degradation in performance, once one studies a small device and begins to 
understand the basic principles.

Ken, I gave you a shortcut to higher amperage models when I posted the speaker 
wire stator design and it's associated parts needed for getting the tuning 
close, ON 
THE FIRST TRY.  Yep, rewinding a roll of off-the-shelf speaker wire is SUCH a 
trauma, you're right.

No chips or multi-transistor setups are really necessary. But, you can take it 
down 
that road if you choose to. 

Sure, Ken, it's nice to have a tiny box instead of a big spinning wheel. But, 
if that's 
all you're worried about, just use your tiny box. Maybe you'd be the one that's 
smart 
enough to figure out how to make a "tiny box" version that would allow you to 
compare it to your other tiny box, in a one-on-one test.

Why is it that you expect me to try to argue YOU into building ANYTHING? I've 
presented some basic components needed for SG construction purely as an FYI 
sort of deal, nothing more. 

Take that however you choose to. 

Continuing this dialogue is doing nothing but stealing moments from my life 
that I 
could be using for otherwise useful purposes. The only reason I jumped into the 
thread was that you were seemingly casting aspersions at a device concept that 
you've apparently never seen up close, even though you have the plans available 
in 
any number of places and you could build your own in one afternoon.

Believe it or not, I do have respect for those that have extensive training in 
physics 
and electronics. These are the people that are better suited to finding 
anomolies in 
devices that appear to be doing something "different" than what the textbooks 
say is 
possible.

I'm done with this dialogue now because you're just wasting moments of my life 
that 
I could be using for something besides "coffee clutching". I just don't have 
the 
energy to keep going around the same circular track, sparring with the 
unwilling for 
no good reason.

This thread has provided about as much benefit to me as playing yahtzee at my 
kitchen table. I hope it's done something useful for someone out there.

Bye now.


R



On 24 Nov 2005 at 22:08, Carrigan, Ken wrote:

> 
> Roamer,
> It's not funny at all. The desulfator is a desulfator and works on sound 
> principles and physical 
> laws. Can you tell me what the SG is based on to make it work?