Further clarification. Following posts at RecivaRefuge by CSR/Reciva and 
additional info added by Jim Simmons (of the BBC) on his blog, we know a bit 
more:

 

·         MP3 (using Shoutcast) will be made available wherever Windows Media 
(WM) is now on the streams. Based on earlier comments figure that to last “1 to 
2 yrs”. My personal guess is not too much past Dec. 2015. From there it will be 
AAC+ only. 

 

·         While I focus on Reciva based devices, these issues will affect 
devices using other services such as Frontier and vTuner to varying degrees. 

 

·         The BBC is talking with hardware manufacturers and chip makers 
including CSR/Reciva. The nature of that interaction isn’t fully known but in 
the case of CSR and BBC, it appears to have been going on for some time. 

 

·         The AAC streams will be LC-AAC or HE-AAC and HE-AACv1 (AAC+). They 
will be in http wrappers (HLS/HDS). Bottom line is that many newer Reciva based 
radios such as those from Grace can handle it now or get a firmware upgrade (if 
the manufacturer and Reciva decide to do that). This remains a bit fuzzy since 
it involves the firmware in newer radios and can vary from model to model. 
Older Reciva units (such as C Crane) cannot handle these versions of AAC and 
cannot be upgraded easily for hardware reasons so it’s MP3 or bust for them.

 

·         The future support of podcasts and on-demand by CSR/Reciva is 
undecided. However, safe to assume that many on-demand streams for the BBC 
programs will go away at the end of the year. Those that remain must by DRM 
free (probably talk only) and podcasts more likely than on-demand per the BBC. 

 

·         The initial changes are to BBC domestic services like streams for BBC 
Radio 4 or 5. The World Service implementation seems more uncertain but you 
shouldn’t assume anything past December 31, 2014. 

 

·         There are 900,000+ Reciva based products registered and CSR/Reciva 
does not intend to abandon them anytime soon. The implication is that further 
enhancements are coming but when and for what is not known. 

 

·         Streaming access by devices such as smartphones are not likely to be 
affected other than the service having to update stream addresses. Most of them 
can handle any of the other changes. Services such as TuneIn will continue to 
work but again, may have stream updates. 

 

--
-Rob de Santos



 

From: Internetradio [mailto:internetradio-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf 
Of Rob de Santos
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:00 PM
To: 'Internet radio discussion'
Subject: Re: [Internetradio] BBC reciva only until end of 2014?

 

Not in the short term. The BBC has promised the MP3 and AAC streams (not clear 
what version of AAC) will continue for at least another year or two. After that 
it might be only AAC.  So your Reciva radio will continue to get BBC streams 
for at least another couple of years, or at least that’s what the general 
reading of this is. 

 

The On Demand programs are probably going away for Reciva users. Some podcasts 
without music restricted by license will continue as MP3. (Spoken word programs 
should be fine as podcasts.)

 

Several of us are trying to engage the BBC in a dialog to get further 
clarification but so far they have not responded. 

 

--
-Rob 

 

From: Internetradio [mailto:internetradio-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf 
Of Eric Floden
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:42 PM
To: Internet radio discussion
Subject: [Internetradio] BBC reciva only until end of 2014?

 

Am I reading this right?  No more BBC via reciva based internet radios?

thanks

ef

http://recivarefuge.net/forum/index.php?topic=1746.0

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