Dear All / Dr. Sikand
We are revisiting the debate about Dalit Christians. Caste hierarchy is a
basic organizing principle in Hindu society and people who have converted to
Christianity and Islam, more often than not, remain within the same social
structure and its embedded hierarchies, arguably along a purity pollution
axis. It is true that Islam and Christianity would have sanctions against
caste based hierarchies. It is equally true that even a consciously
controlled, church-driven religion works within a cultural context, and that
therefore, followers of Christian churches and of Islam do not, just by
virtue of the faith they profess, have the leverage to opt out of organic
hierarchies. Hinduism is not an organized religion and its sharpest
definition would perhaps make it a residual category. It would perhaps be
correct to say that Christians and Muslims in India belong to a Hindu social
order. In fact, in parts of India Christian churches draw their flock from,
and are organized upon caste affiliations. An honest approach to the problem
of caste inequity would have to include, in the discourse of caste and the
praxis of social justice, those among the Muslims and Christians
marginalized and deprivileged by caste.
Arnab Sen


 reasoning is  parochial and flawed.

Since Islam and Christianity do not recognise genetic based caste 
distinctiveness, then why should dalit converts to Islam and Christianity 
receive benefits under the existing SC/ST schemes? These previleges are 
exclusively reserved for Hindu dalits who fall under the Hindu caste categories 
and who've been since centuries at the receiving end of the arrogant high caste 
Hindus who've failed tocomprehend the profound rationale underlying 
"varnaashram" (human eugenics)  which is primarily  (1) A detailed 
classification of humanbeings into distinct groups (or castes) based on inborn 
instincts, (2) A grand experiment in eugenics that seeks to prevent deletrious 
hypogamous unions and inbreeding  and their consequent ill effects on the 
psycho-emotional-physical apparatus of humanbeings born in this way due to 
incompatible marriages.


If we're to do away with caste based reservations and benefits, then, once and 
for all, the government ought to formulate a comprehensive policy whereby help 
should be rendered to the underprevileged sections of society irrespective of 
religious, gender, social and caste affilations as the case maybe. And, if, in 
the present circumstances, dalit Muslims or Christians still insist on seeking 
government help under the prevailing SC/ST schemes then truly unbaised and 
secular citizens can equally call for the implementation of a common civil code 
for all Indian citizens, or ask for the abolition of previleges accorded to 
Hajj pilgrims.

On the one hand, the Muslims fervently desire to retain their narrow Islamic 
identity but on the otherhand they also wish to take advantage of the 
reservation benefits that're aimed at uplifting Hindu dailts who fall under the 
yoke of casteism. If dalit converts to Islam are discriminated against by upper 
class Muslims, then the tableegh or ulemas should launch a sustained 
educational programme with the motive of removing the old caste prejudices 
among Muslims or a fatwa outlawing casteism among Muslims should be issued by 
the concerned Muslim organisations.

Going by the phenomenal rate of irrational demands made by fanatical minority 
bodies in India, it won't be too long before there arises a clamour from the 
Muslims or Christians for the formal introduction in school and college syllabi 
of absurd beliefs of  invisible angels flying down to earth to reveal wornout 
and flawed trash to "inspired" individuals, immaculate conception, or 
creationist theories revolving around the fictitious extra-cosmic god who has 
no causal link with anything but who yet somehow managed to create the cosmos 
out of nothing by simply saying "Be" !


Best Regards,

Dr A K Isaacs

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