Re: [Kaboodle-user] Kaboodle won't connect?

[Scott Best]

Ted:

        Yes, since you're using the demo proxy, the router/firewall settings
won't matter, they all get bypassed easily enough. The times I've seen
Kaboodle not work was because the Partnership files were not installed
on the current Master Node, but rather on another PC that was the
Master node at some other time. As I said the other day, it's a bit more
complicated that I originally planned; it will be much cleaner in 2.0.

        For now, please let me know if EchoVNC ends up being more useful
for you.

cheers,
Scott

On Sep 9, 2005, at 5:30 AM, Ted Barham wrote:

Scott,
Basically I'd like to be able to access my home PC (and network) while
I'm on the road or while I'm at work.  All PCs running Kaboodle are
running XP.  As I said earlier, I think I properly set up port

forwarding from my router to the PC running Kaboodle (home network), but from your response it seems like it shouldn't matter since I'm using the

demo proxy.

I'm not sure what other information I could provide that might allow you

to help me figure out what's wrong.  I followed the instructions for
setting up connections and partnerships, but most of the other settings
I left at default.  I didn't have any installation problems, and the

software has never crashed. I have ZoneAlarm firewall on my home PC and

Norton firewall on my laptop, but I gave full access for Kaboodle,
WinVNC, and Zebedee on both systems so the software firewalls probably
aren't the problem.

In the mean time I'll try the echovnc program to see if that can give me

some of what I need.

- Ted

P.S. - I noticed (at work) how it's not possible to have two PCs on the

same network as masters. However, for whatever reason, when I was using

my laptop at home (thru a wireless connection) it did allow me to have
the main desktop as master and the laptop as master as well.  That's
when I was able to do a connection from the desktop to the laptop (but
not the other way around). I guess this points to a problem with the
network setup?


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott C. Best [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:15 PM
To: Ted Barham
Cc: kaboodle-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-user] Kaboodle won't connect?

Ted:

        Heya. Sounds like you have some things a bit jumbled (not
your fault; that part of Kaboodle *is* a bit jumbled).

        When two or more PC's are on the same LAN, only one of
them (ie, the "Master Node") can participate in a LAN-to-LAN
GetEngaged connection. So if your PC and laptop are on the same
LAN, only one of them can be the "Master Node", and so you
won't be able to make a GetEngaged connection between them. If
your laptop and PC are on *different* LANs (ie, one on the LAN,
one connected via dialup), they can both become "Master Nodes",
and they can then make a GetEngaged connection with each other.

        As for the KaboodleProxy capability, it can be used to
help facilitate the GetEngaged connection -- it's an alternative
to doing port-forwarding. If you've already port-forwarded for
the PC on the LAN, you won't need to use KaboodleProxy (though
it will still work, of course).

        Lastly...what *is* the "connection you really care about"?
If you just want to connect from one Windows PC to another Windows
PC across the Internet regardless of firewalling, you should try
EchoVNC: "http://www.echovnc.com";. It connects just to PC's
together, whereas Kaboodle attempts to connect two LAN's together.

hope that helps,
Scott

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Ted Barham wrote:

I just discovered Kaboodle yesterday and excitedly installed it on my
home computer, my work computer and my laptop.  I registered three
different email addresses (on for each PC), and I created partnerships
for each combination.  And I added the demo proxy to Kaboodle in each
computer.  I also set up port forwarding on my home router for ports
4182, 4183, and 11965 (being a novice at TCP/IP stuff I can't be

certain

I did this part correctly, though).  And I verified that Zebedee was
running.

But so far I've only been able to make a connection from my home PC to
my laptop - not the connection I really care about.  And even that
connection may not have been a good test since both PCs were on the

same

network at the time.  What I really want to do is connect from my

laptop

to my computer at home, or from my work computer to my home computer.
But trying to connect I always get a message along the lines of
"Sorry...your GetEngaged partner xxxx could not be connected with via
any of your KaboodleProxy connections."

Is the problem my firewall settings, or should the demo proxy allow
connections beyond a firewall? I'd gladly purchase the $25 software

that

allows connecting behind a firewall, but only if I'm fairly certain

that

it will fix my current problem.  And are there any other things I

could

play with to fix the problem?

- Ted Barham

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