William J. Foristal
Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:06:07 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, LOL...you're on a roll today! This reminds me of a movie I just saw. Titled "The Big Lebowski". It is another hilarious Coen brothers movie. Your comment about a person behaving any way he wants reminded me of the John Goodman character in the movie, especially a scene where he loses it in a coffee shop and is warned that he would be asked to leave. Great fun! In fact, that entire character Goodman plays reminds me of..........oh well, I probably shouldn't delve into it too far, if you know what I mean. :) Bill On Fri, 03 Apr 1998 04:49:57 -0600 Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Terry > >I am truly impressed (Yawn) by your spouting of philosophical >arguments in defending >your position and your throwing up of smokescreens (ho, hum). I >especially like you >telling me my assumptions of why I post something. It seems I believe >that the >courts are the ultimate truth, from what you write. Oh well, believe >what you wish. > >TBO, I agree you can call anyone anything you want. And you are free >to suffer the >consequences if you should find yourself in a position in which you >foolishly feel >that is your right and no one can do anything about it. > >Now, I don't know about you but I have work to do and posts worth >reading. So I >guess I am getting bored "playing" with someone that seems to believe >the only >correct evidence is the evidence that support's one's beliefs. Of >course, so far >your evidence consists of a 1940s death penalty to support your claim >that we give >children the death penalty; an amicus brief in a case in which the >judges did not >buy into the arguments; a case that in no way resembles the case under >discussion; >and your argument that the evidence shows Thomas is a perjuror. So I >guess I will >not "play" around anymore with you. > >jackief > >jackief >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> Hi Jackie >> >> >> I don't always bother acknowledging epistemological arguments >about the >> >> nature of truth when stating facts. >> > >> >Now this sentence is great--truth and facts in the same breath. >The fact is: >> >Thomas was not convicted of perjury therefore he can not be called >a >> perjuror >except by silly people who think because a word may be >similar it >> is the same >thing. >> >> The fact is Thomas can be called anything by any American. The >truth is >> what it is independent of what anybody says it is and no American is >banned >> from speaking truth or lies as they choose when not in violation of >legislation. >> >> What in the name of God makes you think a court is the repository of >> Ultimate Truth? It matters not a whit what a court finds as far as >the >> truth is concerned. If an effort is made to find the truth by >anyone or any >> group the results may be judged to approximate the truth by the >quality of >> that effort and the evidence capable of assessment. If a court >truly >> presents a rational case based on evidence we can hope it has found >the truth. >> >> Pray tell what manner of argument invalidates evidence about Thomas' >perjury >> but lets us believe the earth is round or Al Capone was a racketeer? > This >> should be a whole new field of philosophy. >> >> You passed the test. Your overhelming modesty is charming but you >need not >> even read the test to know the answers. It is the nature of a >priori >> knowledge. Congratulations. Des Cartes would be astonished at your >> brilliant addition to his singularity: "I am even if I don't think." >> >> >Your >> >belief and your right to say that you believe he is a perjuror is >fine. I >> hope you >> >don't call him a perjuror in the wrong place though or you might be >facing >> a little >> >problem. >> > >> >> I will admit we cannot fully know the >> >> earth is round, that Al Capone was a racketeer and that Clarence >Thomas is a >> >> perjurer. Sometimes close is good enough. >> > >> >I believe there is empirical evidence that the earth is more round >than >> flat and I >> >believe Capone was convicted of a crime and there are also I >believe facts >> that show >> >him to be a racketeer. Clarence Thomas does not fit into this >> category--there are >> >no facts to support this, only your belief based on the fact he >wouldn't >> take a lie >> >detector and Anita did. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Your modesty is enchanting but your flawless performance on the >test has to >> >> be acknowledged by your admission you read it >> > >> >LOL--I never said I read it, merely that I flunked it. : ). So >again you >> made a >> >subjective decision. >> > >> >> . We know this with Cartesian >> >> certainty because it is obvious you think despite your efforts to >obscure >> >> that fact. >> > >> >ROTF!! That is about as impressive as you know what. jackief >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Terry >> >> > >> >> >I really don't know where you are coming from--I said I >believed--not >> that he >> >> >was--but that I believed was a liar. Nowhere did I acknowledge >or say >> he was a >> >> >perjuror. Yes you are free to say any ole thing you want, but >when you are >> >> >discussing something to provide evidence for your view, you >don't state as >> >> a fact >> >> >that the man was a perjuror. In a discussion like this, >perjuror has a >> whole >> >> >different meaning. >> >> > >> >> >LOL--that is why I flunked your test--the decision on whether I >passed or >> >> not was >> >> >yours to make--purely a subjective decision, I would say. But I >believed I >> >> flunked, >> >> >therefore because I believed that was the truth, I am telling >the truth >> >> when I say I >> >> >flunked. Sorry a score of -0. >> >> > >> >> >jackief >> >> > >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Jackie, >> >> >> >> >> >> There is nothing in our tradition or Constitution that >requires that >> we not >> >> >> speak plainly. If I choose to call Al Capone a racketeer, >Andrew >> Cunanan a >> >> >> serial murderer, Clarence Thomas a perjurer, Bill Clinton an >adulterer >> it is >> >> >> idiocy to claim I am doing something wrong because they were >never >> tried and >> >> >> convicted of these things. A perjurer is a felon who lies >under oath >> about >> >> >> a material matter. Justice Thomas did that as you >acknowledge. Why should >> >> >> we not speak plainly? If he feels he is grievously wronged he >can sue. >> >> >> >> >> >> How would you know you flunked the test if you did not know >the >> answers? I >> >> >> congratulate you on 100%. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe >law-issues >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >-- >> >> >> >In the sociology room the children learn >> >> >> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology >Room" >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe >law-issues >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Best, Terry >> >> >> >> >> >> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's >Dictionary >> >> >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe >law-issues >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >In the sociology room the children learn >> >> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective >> >> > >> >> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology >Room" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe >law-issues >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Best, Terry >> >> >> >> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's >Dictionary >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe >law-issues >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >In the sociology room the children learn >> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective >> > >> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" >> > >> > >> > >> >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues >> > >> > >> Best, Terry >> >> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's >Dictionary >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > > > >-- >In the sociology room the children learn >that even dreams are colored by your perspective > >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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