Jackie Fellows
Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:40:10 -0500
Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill I know that there are good arguments on both sides of the camp on this issue. I grew up with guns in the house all my life and my girls were taught gun safety and the whole works. I shoot although not the greatest and Ed is a target shooter. Of course, we do not have children in the house and our dobes are a pretty good protection system against them getting stolen. We have a number of LE friends who Ed shoots with and I enjoy the outings. So it would be difficult for me, personally, to support the banning of guns even though I see they do have some valid points and see how often guns are so readily available for those who shouldn't have guns. The assault weapons are something else entirely though--this IMO should not even be manufactured. jackief William J. Foristal wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: > > Hi Jackie, > > Yeah, we have people getting injured and killed via gunshots down here > and it always seems to be someone who would never touch the gun or who > had gone through such an intensive training and safety course that they'd > never have an accident. > > Then we have those brilliant people who don't lock up their guns and > manage to get them stolen. There's a Catch 22 for you. How can you > protect yourself with a gun if you have to keep it locked up? <G> > > A senator from Illinois is presenting a bill that would create a law to > punish gun owners whose guns are stolen and then used in a crime, or > whose guns are involved in an accidental shooting. Of course, the NRA > opposes this. > > Bill > > On Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:22:12 -0600 Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >Hi Bill > > > >The tornado at St Peter edged out any news on the 13 year old in our > >wonderful paper. But, yesterday Tom (the one that was the police > >chief in > >Grand Meadow) and I talked to the county sheriff and it sounds like > >the > >child has not had an easy time. But, it still shouldn't have caused > >him to > >kill others. I do know that guns were left lying around the house > >when he > >lived up here and the mother was not worried as she said the kids knew > >about guns and what they go do. She also said that they wouldn't > >touch the > >guns. > > > >jackief > > > >William J. Foristal wrote: > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: > >> > >> Hi Jackie, > >> > >> I thought your phrasing was impeccable, as usual, and you are 100% > >> correct in what you posted. :) > >> > >> The more I read about that 13 year old the more bizarre that case > >gets. > >> Looks to me that not only the kid, but his father and step-father > >had a > >> lot of problems. Too bad they can't see these things ahead of time > >and > >> intercede. Also, I think that kids need to be sensitized to the > >fact > >> that they should immediately report any comments from another kid > >that > >> they plan to kill or hurt someone. Times really change. When I was > >a > >> kid the worst that happened was a fist fight to settle differences. > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> On Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:23:33 -0600 Jackie Fellows > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> writes: > >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi Bill > >> > > >> >I guess I did sort of phrase it wrong : ). Lucky some of you know > >me > >> >and can > >> >fill in the gaps when I quickly write something. But I do know > >there > >> >are not > >> >many I talk too would take a polygraph. > >> > > >> >There is sure a flurry of activity going on around here over the > >> >Arkansas > >> >thing. The 13 year old spent summers up here with his > >grandparents. > >> >My > >> >colleague who appeared on tv has been swamped with calls wanting an > >> >interview. He had CBS sitting in his driveway, CNN called, NBC, > >> >Fox--really > >> >something wild. > >> > > >> >jackief > >> > > >> >William J. Foristal wrote: > >> > > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, 01 Apr 1998 06:53:52 -0600 Jackie Fellows > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> writes: > >> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Hi Sue > >> >> > > >> >> >Thanks for ferreting out pertinent info. for all of us. I am > >not > >> >sure > >> >> >I > >> >> >read this right--my eyes might be biased <VBG>, but it seems the > >> >> >Supreme > >> >> >court is not willing to accept the idea that the polygraph is > >> >> >admissible. > >> >> >Am I correct in this?? > >> >> > > >> >> >jackief > >> >> > >> >> Hi Jackie, > >> >> > >> >> Yes, you are correct. Although the court did not rule out > >> >acceptance of > >> >> lie detector tests in future cases that may be supported by more > >> >> compelling evidence, they ruled that the evidence presented in > >this > >> >case > >> >> was not sufficient to warrant approval. In other words, they did > >> >not buy > >> >> the amicus brief citing the 90% accuracy data. > >> >> > >> >> Some comments in the ruling: > >> >> > >> >> "There is simply no consensus that polygraph evidence is > >reliable." > >> >> > >> >> "To this day, the scientific community remains extremely > >polarized > >> >about > >> >> the reliability of polygraph techniques. There is simply no way > >to > >> >know > >> >> in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's conclusion is > >> >> accurate." > >> >> > >> >> Bill > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >>_____________________________________________________________________ > >> >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet > >e-mail. > >> >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > >> >> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >> >> > >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe > >law-issues > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >In the sociology room the children learn > >> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective > >> > > >> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > >> > > >> > >> > >_____________________________________________________________________ > >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > >> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > > > > > > > >-- > >In the sociology room the children learn > >that even dreams are colored by your perspective > > > >I toss and turn all night. 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