Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi all last night New Detectives was a very interesting show, since I
was so late in letting you know it was on, I taped it and here is a
transcript of the show I typed up. The first thing I was happy about is
this was not the same show I had seen before that they had talked to
mainly John Douglas, this time they had Robert Ressler, who I have
talked about before concerning profiling of killers. I had listed before
also the main type of serial killers we have the organized and the
disorganized SK, the most common SK that people recognize is the
organized, due to the fact they are much harder to catch and usually
have a higher amount of victims left in their wake, Bundy and Gacy are
prime examples of organized SK's. Now on to the show.
The show starts out with the SK case that was called the "Vampire SK"
police find a victim, Terri Wallen, in Sacramento, the police are
surprised to find the killer may have drank the victims blood, they
don't know who the killer is so they call in a specialist for this case,
Russ Warbagal a special agent with the FBI, the brutality of the crime
tells Warbagal the killer couldn't control himself and that Terri Wallen
may just be the beginning of his rampage. Warbagal says "There is just
no need to disembowel a victim, there's no need to reach inside and cut
out body parts, there's no need to cut out a 4" piece of a major part of
an artery and take it along with you. We knew we had a nut and we were
worried, something was going to happen." Warbagal seeing what he was
facing then called in a friend and co-worker Robert Ressler.
Ressler has tracked and caught some of the worlds most dangerous
killers, as a criminal profiler for the FBI, he stakes out the darkest
corners of a killers mind. In the 1970's he was one of the first that
used the term serial killer to describe those who murder again and
again. Ressler is a mind hunter.
Ressler struggles to understand the killers mind by studying the crime
scene, knowing how the killer thinks is essential to predicting his next
move. When will he strike? Who will he target?
Ressler quote "You have to have an emotional need to solve a crime, you
have to want to know who your thunder (?) was, you have to know what
that person is, what he's like. What he was like before during and after
the crime." Unquote.
There is a danger in identifying to closely with those that destroy.
Ressler heeds the words of German philosopher Frederick Neechi (sp)
"Whoever fights monsters, should not become a monster himself, and that
when one looks into a Abyss, the unblinking abyss stares directly back."
For Ressler Neechi's observation is motivation and warning.
Ressler "Looking into the Abyss to me is looking into the depth, the
deep crevices, the dark crevices of man's human mind. When it says the
Abyss looks back, to me that means I'm looking back at myself I'm
seeing my reflection because in every horrible killer yourself is in
there somewhere. Somewhere in your life you could have gone that same
road."
In the 1970's Ressler was one of the original members of the FBI
Behavioral Science Unit, the first FBI program to systematically
research a killers motivations. Ressler interviewed some of America's
most notorious murders in prison, to learn about their habits and
attitudes. Today he is a private consultant who works all over the world
to help solve Serial murders.
In January of 1978 Ressler applied his knowledge to help Sacramento
investigators devise a psychological profile of Terry Wallens murderer.
It was the first step in tracking the killer.
He began his profile by examining the crime scene detail, "What you look
for at a crime scene is, positioning of the body, the way the body was
left by the killer. The state of the body, from being clothed to
unclothed. And of course your looking for available weaponry, or did the
killer take a weapon to the scene use it and take it away? These are all
things your sizing up in your head."
It was determined that the killer cut up Terry with knives from her own
kitchen. (they are showing the crime scene photo's during this portion).
He left the knives in plane sight of the scene. A detail that would
prove instructive for Ressler.
Since most SK's are male Ressler and Warbagal conclude that their
suspect is male and assume he's white like the majority of american
SK's. The brutality of the crime and the killers apparent disregard at
leaving evidence behind convince them that the subject is mentally ill.
That helps them pinpoint the killers age. Ressler knows that mental
illness begins in adolescence, it would take at least eight years for
the killer to grow sick enough to commit the acts of violence he
inflicted upon Terry Wallen. Assuming symptoms began at age 15, Ressler
figures the killer would be in his mid to late 20's. Any older he would
have already committed several gruesome homicides. Ressler goes further,
he believes the killer to be schizophrenic, a mental illness
characterized by delusions, and bizarre behavior.
The heinous nature of the crime points to full blown psychosis, total
lost of contact with reality. Because he drinks the blood of his
victims, investigators call him the 'Vampire Killer" From his office in
VA Ressler worked feverishly with Warbagal in CA to refine the killers
profile. What would he look like? They are convinced we should look for
someone thin, male schizophrenics generally eat poorly, if at all. He
will pay little attention to his appearance.
Warbagal "A guy that is suffering from major mental illness, is probably
going to have a deterioration in his hygiene, probably doesn't cut his
hair, wears the same clothes for weeks at a time, doesn't brush his
teeth, scrungy looking."
Given his bizarre behavior the killer will most likely live alone.
Warbagal gives a copy of the profile to the Sacramento police to
circulate throughout the county, but no strong suspect emerges. The
Vampire Killer remains at large. Will the profilers catch him?
(Commercial)
Three days after Terry Wallens brutal murder, less than a mile from her
house the Vampire Killer strikes again. Police find the bodies of Daniel
Meredith, Evelyn Mernough (sp) and her son Jason. Missing and presumed
dead is Mernough's 22 month old nephew Michael Farrietta (sp). These new
deaths convince Warbagal and Ressler unless this murder is found quickly
he will strike again. The mind hunters redouble their efforts. Using
information gathered from this crime scene, they refine their original
profile. Again the Vampire Killer shot his victims, again he used knives
taken from the victims kitchen. Two knives are found in the room and
another is found outside. He doesn't seem to care he left the weapons
behind. These details tell the profilers the killer is not planning his
crime, although he brings a gun he cuts the bodies with weapons he finds
at the scene then leaves them there.
Ressler "We have a knife that was used to mutilate the body, taken from
the kitchen used to mutilate the victim, then discarded at the crime
scene. Seeing this for a second time definitely reinforced in my mind,
that we're dealing with a highly disorganized killer."
Organized and disorganized, these words describe a SK's behavior before,
during and after a murder. Organized serial killers carefully plot their
moves. They cover their trails so thoroughly that little or no evidence
remains that ties them to their crimes. By contrast disorganized SK's
act on impulse their behavior is random, making their next move
difficult to predict. Investigators find blood stains in the bathtub.
The crimes are becoming more gruesome and the killer is more deranged
and more disorganized. (Kelly's comment eerie music sounds do do
dodoooo).
The evidence reinforces the mind hunters believe that the Vampire
Killers appearance will continue to deteriorate, he likely won't have
changed his clothes, unless he is single and living alone the killer
can't possible escape notice. Their subject is a thin disheveled loner,
not more than 30 years old. Investigators are puzzled when murder victim
Daniel Meredith's, stolen red station wagon turned up a short distance
away. Because it was found near by, they determine the Vampire Killer
must have walked through the crime scene then fled on foot after
abandoning the car.
Ressler "the killer would be living, residing, within a very close
distance to the car. I'd say within one quarter mile."
The day after the murders, police receive a unrelated report that a dog
has been shot and mutilated within blocks of the crime scene. For the
mind hunters it's the break they have been looking for, they know that
as children often mutilate or kill animals.
Warbagal "He would go out and kill these pets with the same gun, he
would shoot be victims with".
As more animals are discovered the circle closes, The mind hunters are
convinced that the Vampire Killer lives near the slaughtered animals and
the victims. He won't travel far. Police put out the revised profile
through out the city.
A women in her late 20's leaving a shopping center in Sacramento, a
strange man approaches her. Hearing of the Vampire Killer, she notifies
the police. The man she eluded at the shopping center she tells the
police, is a former high school classmate, Richard K. Chase. She was
shocked by his appearance. He had blood stains on his sweatshirt, his
eyes seemed sunk into their sockets.
Armed with a search warrant officers entered Chases' home. They were
unprepared for what they found. Nazi paraphernalia dominates the small
apartment. The place is littered with pamphlets about alien conspiracy,
the chaos in the living room fits the profile of someone with an equally
chaotic mind. In the kitchen police find appliances with blood (pictures
are being shown), as long with newspaper articles about the murder of
Terri Wallen. In a kitchen drawer are knives, from Wallens home.
Investigators also find a tool box, and blood stained rubber boots.
Chase is arrested and charged with six counts of first degree murder.
Including the killing of Evelyn's nephew Michael, who's remains are
found not far from Chases apartment. The jury deliberates only a few
hours, they pronounced him guilty on all counts. Sentence death in the
electric chair, In 1979 Ressler decided to talk to Chase in prison:
Ressler "The reason I interviewed him was very frankly to validate and
to do a update on the profiling work I had done. To talk to him frankly,
after working on the case and seeing the crime scene, reading the police
reports and of course the court records, you can really fine tune your
profiling."
Chase told Ressler he killed only to preserve his own life. He believed
his blood was drying out, and corroding his body. His Killings Chase
contented, were made in self defense.
Ressler "When we got down to the motivation he said that the blood in
his veins the blood throughout his body, was turning to powder or dust.
And that it was moving very slowly though his body causing him to slow
down causing him to be fatigued, and become very Ill. This was being
done of course he said by the influence of the UFO's and the aliens, the
only way he could counter this was to get a fresh supply of new blood."
What drives a man like Chase to murder? One FBI study of 36 SK's
revealed that although most began life in two parent homes. By the age
of 2 almost half of the boys fathers had abandoned their families.
Nearly half of the surveyed offenders reported cold or uncaring
relationships with their mothers. 26 reported such relationships with
their fathers. Nearly 70% of the families had histories of alcohol
abuse, 1/3 had histories of drug abuse. Almost all reported some form of
childhood psychological, physical or sexual abuse. As children many SK's
tortured animals. The majority did not graduate from high school, while
the men had the required intelligence to perform skilled jobs, most had
poor work histories. Only 20% or 6 offenders had ever managed to hold
onto steady work. Yet, to all appearances, SK's seemed normal, like your
neighbor or your friend.
Ressler, "Most of these people, are like everyday people, often times
they are intelligent, their attractive, their good conversationalist, IQ
is usually high normal or beyond. And their very deceptive."
Ressler was opposed to the death sentence for Chase, Chase he argued was
mentally ill and should be put up for life in a prison hospital. Chase's
sentence was commuted to life in the California medical facility, but
Chase killed himself in his prison cell, just after Christmas 1980. He
had stockpiled his antidepressant pills and taken them all at once.
One of America's most cunning SK's was also one of the most organized.
Highly intelligent and a talented photographer, this murder specialized
in kidnapping, rape and torture. Police called him the Unidentified
Subject or Unsub. He was so meticulous he would leave virtually no
evidence of his atrocities, except for the photographs he took himself.
Unsub customized his cars to resemble unmarked police cars, for 5 years
he traveled from state to state. Never staying in one place to long. He
was confident he would never be caught.
In Mannassas VA, a team of former FBI agents pursue some of the worlds
most dangerous criminals. They call themselves "The Academy Group".
Robert Hazlewood and Peter Snarick, are experts in psychological
profiling.
Hazlewood, "If you are in life an impulsive act without thinking, that
crime scene is going to be sloppy. A very reflection of your impulsive
acts. OTOH if in life your a cold calculating individual, you don't take
any unnecessary risk, that type of behavior can also be demonstrated at
a crime scene."
Even the crime scene evidence categorizing SK's is difficult. Some Sk's
demonstrate a mixture of disorganized and organized habits.
Hazlewood "All to often if a investigator starts looking at a crime
scene, he tries to put the offender into one of these nice neat
categories. He will be disappointed when the person he arrest doesn't
fit these categories. It varies."
In Maryland on Memorial day weekend a young women is approached by a man
who identifies himself as a police officer, showing her his ID, he is
driving a unmarked police car, he tells her she is a suspect in a string
of robberies. He insists she accompany him to police headquarters for
questioning. He handcuffs her and pushed her into the car. It's the
beginning of the longest and most terrifying experience of her life, he
is no police officer he is Unsub. He takes her to a deserted building
where he repeatedly rapes and tortures her. He photographs and tapes the
ordeal.
Hazlewood "One of the buzz words we use today is Power and Control.
Whether your dealing with a rapist or a SK, it still comes down to those
two basic elements. Power and control over the life of another
individual."
Eventually Unsub will push the dazed women back into his car, and take
her for one last ride.
"He stops the automobile, opens up the passengers door. And rolls the
women out into a ditch. But, he did not kill her. He allowed this victim
to live. And as a result within a number of hours she was found and she
was rescued and now became a full fledge investigation for kidnapping.
The FBI set up a massive manhunt for Unsub. The Ocean city Lady was the
latest victim in a long list of victims. Some were tortured others
murdered, but many years passed before there was a break in the case.
At the same time that the FBI searched for Unsub, the Secret Service was
on the trail of an illusive counterfeiter. A man who routinely passed
fake $20 bills to unsuspecting clerks in malls in the midwest and the
east coast.
"The one thing about any law enforcement agency is no matter how good we
are you need a element of luck and cooperation from the citizenry. In
this instance an alert clerk, recognized the composite sketch as a
customer who was currently in the store. She notified mall security,
Security notified local authorities, and within a short period of time,
the suspect was apprehended."
The man arrested was James Mitchel Devartolaven (sp) the SS soon
discovered he is not just a counterfeiter, SS agents search a storage
unit, that was rented to Devart. Inside are sheaths of the fake currency
he has been passing, but to their shock they also discover a grotese
treasure trove of pictures and audio tape, the 1983 discovery unmasked
the focus of the FBI investigation.
Hazlewood who had done a criminal profile for the FBI reviewed the
material from the storage unit, agents find thousands of photographs of
his victims, among those are photo's and audio tape of the women
abducted in Ocean City in 1979. Some of the photo's date back to the
early 1960's. The FBI also found hand written notes, that contained
codes that referred to past and future crimes.
Although they had uncovered Devat.'s cache of damaging images and audio
tape, the killers face remains literally out of the frame of the
pictures he's taken with the victims. Investigators will have to prove
he is the man in the photographs, if they are to tie him to the rapes,
tortures and murders.
During his career Peter Smerick, was a photography expert. The SS sent
him a number of Devarto's photo for him to analyze. Several show a naked
torso and uncovered arms. Smerick focused his attention on the arms,
they had a distinctive pattern of freckles and small moles, he then
asked the SS to temporarily remove him from his prison cell and to
photograph him in the same position as the person in the confiscated
photo's. The gambit pays off. Smerick compared the photo's and the
freckles and moles matched. It's the proof the Agents desperately
needed.
Hazlewood "In all the years I've worked as a criminal profiler, I can't
think of another case, where the offender was such an excellent
photographer, that unknowingly he took his own crime scene photographs
which ended up putting him in prison."
In 1984 Devart was tried and convicted he is in a federal prison in TX
sentenced to multiple life terms. Hazlewood "He is one of the most
dangerous criminals that ever walked the face of the earth in my
opinion."
By controlling every variable, weapons, location, and victim. The
organized SK can slip through any dragnet getting away with murders for
years. He hides in plain sight.
Such was the case of John Wayne Gacy. Well liked and respected, he had a
terrible secret though. In 1978 in Plains, Ill 13 year old Robert Peace,
was reported missing. Having learned that Gacy was preparing a
remodeling bid, where Peace worked, Chief Detective Joseph Cosensack,
went to Gacy's home. Gacy denied knowing Peace, but investigators are
suspicious. A background check reveals that Gacy was once convicted of
the sexual abuse of a teenage boy. Cosensack places Gacy under
surveillance. Initially cooperative with the police Gacy becomes
increasingly surly as Cosensacks investigation continues.
Cosensack, "I could feel this hatred there, and he really didn't care
what we were investigating, he was more concerned with trying to stay
out of the way."
Gacy threatens a law suit, if the police continue their surveillance.
Officers persist suspecting that Gacy had much to hide. But, even they
are not prepared for what they'll find. For several weeks in 1978 the
police didn't let Gacy out of their sight. Finally it came time to
search his house. The search uncovers a photo receipt that belonged to
Robert Peace, linking him to the boys disappearance, a more through
search would reveal even more. Chief detective Cosensack was the first
to enter Gacy's home.
Cosensack "I was one of the first people that arrived at the house, and
went in through the back door, I walked in and the place was just dark
and kind of eerie. All the window blinds had been closed, there was some
sense of, I don't know it was kind of ominous actually, Because, we were
starting to believe there could be people buried underneath Gacy's
house." (Kelly's comment Yooooo wooooooo where are you????? LMAO!)
Based on information we had gathered."
Police interviewed Gacy's ex-wife, friends and former employees, stories
came out that Gacy propositioned his workers for sexual favors, some had
disappeared. The house had a strange odor, one of his workers suggested
they look into the crawl space. After rigorous questioning Gacy admits
to detectives that four years earlier he killed one of his homosexual
partners. Gacy claims the murder was in self-defense. He hid the mans
body beneath the floor. Then Gacy shocks investigators, he confesses he
murdered almost three dozen young men and boys, also hiding many of
their bodies underneath the floor. (Kelly's comment 'I beg your pardon I
never promised you a rose garden!')
The confessions trigger an intense search for the missing men,
Detectives examine the crawl space, hoping to find some of the victims.
They uncovered three decomposing bodies and parts of other bodies. The
police don't stop with the crawl space knowing more bodies have to be
stashed under the house. They cut away the floor to find them.
Eventually they would find bodies buried under the dinning room, and
garage floor. Underneath the house is a virtual killing field, of buried
bones and jumbled skeletons. Police arrest Gacy for the murder of Robert
Peace. Though the bodies they uncovered were dead to long to be the
missing boy.
Ressler "Gacy he figured the best way not to get caught with his crimes
was to keep control of his victims after death, but when your a
psychopath a sexual psychopath, he figured no one would ever find those
bodies down there because he was smarter than the police and everybody."
By stashing his victims in his own home Gacy maintained total control
over them, even in death. He remained confident no one would ever find
them without his knowledge. Such careful attention to detail from
planning to death is the mark of a highly organized killer.
Hazlewood "Everything about the case especially when viewing the home
inside, would indicate that Gacy was highly methodical, very well
planned he had thought these crimes out in detail before embarking upon
them."
Gacy also dumped his victims in Des plains river, police recovered 6
more bodies, one of them was Robert Peace. When it was over police
identified the remains of 33 people.
Cosensack "Ressler was very interested in this process because the FBI
was formulating their behavioral science unit, kind of a in-depth study
of people who commit a series of killings and wanting to know more about
them to understand them, and this was a classic, classic case."
The goal of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit is to map the mind of a
Serial Killer.
"So many people believe it's the sexual act its self he is performing
with the victim is a primary importance with him. In reality it's the
entire game, that is important to them, the selection process, the
surveillance, knowing that I have selected you to become my victim and
you don't know it, and all the planning that goes into the stages that
actually conducting the abduction. They are rehearsing this maybe living
this for weeks before the actual abduction occurs, and to a certain
extent the sexual activity afterwards may almost be an aftermath."
With each Killing Gacy refined his methods learned from his mistakes,
and improved on his successes. He eventually grew so confident that he
brazenly targeted, boys in his own neighborhood. Victims came to his
home hoping to get a job with his contracting business. He'd meet with
them in his garage, the sound proof garage was designed by Gacy and
constructed by his company. A motorized door was the only way in or out.
If his victim didn't object, he would demonstrate a magic trick, with
trick handcuffs, after showing how the handcuffs worked he would
persuade his victim to try them. Then he would challenge him to try the
trick behind his back. If the victim agreed the trap was sprung. Gacy
would switch the trick handcuffs for real ones.
Like serial murder/rapist Devart Gacy thought he had completely covered
his tracks. But momento's found during the search of Gacy's home, key
evidence though police didn't know it at the time, Ressler alerted the
police to the importance of these objects.
Cosensack "We had actually found these items not fully realizing what we
had found till after Ressler came along and started pointing out to us,
to you a belt buckle's not important, but to the person who committed
the crime it's very important. It's a visual process to help him relive
the crime at any given time that he wants to do so."
Souvenirs are a reminder of his past murders and a inspiration to kill
again.
Ressler "To Gacy that's some sort of symbol of his success, (he's
pointing at a file drawer that is opened with drivers license of victims
in it) it's a reminder it enhances his fantasy and turns him on to the
next victim, trophies I call them for a SK where it enhances their
fantasy to have these objects around."
The most disturbing object found in Gacy's house was a map indicating
job sites around the United States, he had worked as a contractor.
Ressler believes it's likely that Gacy wouldn't have confined his
killings to Chicago.
Ressler "It only seems logical though, if Gacy's traveling doing this in
Chicago he's doing it elsewhere. I firmly believe that Gacy killed more
than the 33 he was convicted of, I think probably maybe twice that
number."
Forensic teams dismantled Gacy's house, through it all they discovered
27 bodies there, for ten years starting in 1979, Ressler interviewed
Gacy in prison. Ressler was surprised to learn he had grown up four
blocks from the killer in Chicago. Gacy even remembered delivering
groceries to the Ressler family, recalling in detail the distinctive
flower pots that Ressler's mother used. Gacy also had darker
recollections, he described for Ressler a turbulent relationship with
his mother. Ressler wasn't surprised. Nearly all of the SK's he knows of
tell similar stories.
Gacy "I ran away from home you know when I was 19 years old because I
couldn't get along with my father. I mean he was just overbearing,
saying I was dumb and stupid and would never amount to anything, so I
just took off and said the hell with it, I was gone for three months."
>From prison Gacy made a painting for Ressler, It depicted Gacy dressed
in a clown costume.
Gacy "When I got into the clown makeup I regressed into childhood, it as
fun being a clown because you could be yourself or let yourself go and
act the fool. If your business man you have to keep a certain repore and
everybody looks for you for an image. But, as a clown with the makeup on
you can do slapstick and be funny and have a good time, I was enjoying
clowning."
In Gacy's painting, he stands in a grove of Evergreen trees, surrounded
by balloons, the inscription on the back reads:
You can not hope to enjoy the harvest without first wavering in the
fields.
Gacy refused to explain the inscription to Ressler or to anyone else.
Ressler believes that it hints at many more murders that Gacy may have
committed.
Ressler "He said you can get away with a lot of things when your
behaving as a clown, because people see you as something funny something
that is amusing, they don't know what's beneath the grease paint what's
beneath the cloth, he said you can get away with murder."
John Wayne Gacy died by lethal injection on May 10, 1994.
Since the early years of criminal profiling in the 1970's other serial
killers have been identified and caught. Such names as Son of Sam, Ted
Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahlmer have become known to mind hunters and to a
public alternately fascinated and repealed by their crimes.
Ressler "SK's are driven by control, by dominance by discipline, by
authority they have very warped concepts of interaction with another
human being. They don't look at another human being as another human
being, they look at them as a object."
Robert Ressler, believes that serial killing while not limited to the
United States, has intensified in this country since the end of W.W.II.
Part of the reason has to do with the culture that glamorizes and
encourages violence.
Ressler: "Culture produces violent crime. 75% of the Serial Killers are
American products. It sounds very strange but it's about American as
baseball, apple pie, mom and serial homicide it's unfortunate it's
certainly tragic it's the one thing in the world criminology and the
United States absolutely broke our own records."
Profilers must take care that the poisonous thoughts they track don't
pollute their own, for one who stares into the AByss, there is a danger
of falling in. Ressler says mind hunters must work themselves from the
brink every day of their lives.
Ressler "I maintain the balance I think consciously by isolating myself
from the horror of what I see, I go to work at 8 I quit at 5, I go back
to a normal life have a drink I watch the news, I cut the grass I've
kept a perspective I've kept in tune with the main stream and the normal
people of society."
For Ressler profiling is less about drama than about analysis. Observe,
think, conclude, and realize there are no easy or quick answers.
Ressler "The movie concepts is that the profiler is going to solve the
case, everybody can just fold up and go home. Profiling is one tool in
the overall toolbox for the investigator, it gives him one more
dimension for a piece of that puzzle. When you put it all together
sometimes it's very effective."
Profilers explore the minds darkest regions, dragging what's hidden into
the light of day. Only then can it be examined and learned from.
Ressler "The value of profiling as in this case of Richard Chase, is to
give the police some concepts some psychological portrait or image of
the logical type suspect their looking for. Giving them a clearer
picture because otherwise it's an empty room."
These human monsters feel they can never be caught, they are
invulnerable, yet with each new victim each drop of blood, each fiber or
DNA strand left at the scene of a crime the mind hunters probe deeper
into the killers mind. Perhaps the day will come when Profilers won't be
needed, but for now the mind hunters will have to continue looking into
the Abyss.
--
Kathy E
"I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow
isn't looking too good for you either"
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