Bill,
In my case someone 'pirated' my data (which I had a surety level of 1) put it 
on RootsWeb (level 4) with me as Source. He then added stuff I never had, to me 
as the source.  By the time I realized the situation, the culprit had died, and 
Rootsweb said they could not remove someome's data, except through the person 
or his representatives permission. I gave up, changed servers (not related to 
this), but people still find me?! 20 years later. He used the wrong information 
to get in the Mayflower group. I don't care anymore about messes he made in my 
name.
Rich in LA CA



----- Original Message ----
From: William H. Boswell <whbosw...@gmail.com>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 5:27:20 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

I think you misunderstood my stance on this.  I'm not talking about vital
record data and the like.  I'm talking about specific information that no
one else had access to.  For instance, I have hundreds of hours of audio
interviews where specific information was transcribed and passages used in
my notes.  Some of this information has shown up word-for-word in other
people's trees.  If I don't own that information, then who does since it is
not publicly available and I still have the original recordings and there
are no public copies.

Since I had put some of that information online that is my mistake.  Most of
this information was online for many years because at the time the
intentions of most people were good, but lately there seems to be more
pirates than good intentions so I took it down.

I wouldn't mind so much that the information is used, but the thiefs could
at least cite where they got it from instead of taking ownership of my own
data.  Things like dates and places could have come from anywhere so how can
I know where that came from.  Specific information word-for-word I can tell
if it came from my data.  The only thing I ask is that they show some
respect for those of us who spent the time and money to research it.
Obviously they didn't.

Bill Boswell

-----Original Message-----
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy


I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim
the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many
photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include "Photo
Courtesy of ..."

But just one additional point for William: your "data" does not belong to
you and you cannot assert any claim or copyrights over most of the raw data.
Images, recordings, stories, look & feel, and other things can be
copyrighted. But data like "born in 1850, married in 1870, and died in 1920"
cannot belong to anyone. For years there have been long and furious
discussions on various forums that addressed this issue. How and why
Ancestry.com claims copyright protections on the data on their servers is a
matter left for the attorneys and courts to sort out.

Brian in CA


-----Original Message-----
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

William H. Boswell wrote
>I've had the same problem with pirating of my data which is why I no
>longer upload my information especially on Ancestry.com.

I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on line.
I don't guarantee that all my data is 100% accurate so if they think it
is that's their problem.  If they want to deprive themselves of all the
fun of doing their own research, that's their problem.  On the other
hand, if a previously unknown/unfound relative of mine is able to make
contact with me because of my online tree, so much the better.

Of course, it's always much *nicer* if someone asks if they might use
your data and I always try and ask permission of anyone whose online
data I might want to use.  It's only polite.
--
Jenny M Benson





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