I guess I should jump in here even though I wish or think this thread is just about over. Maybe I'm misreading some previous posts but I think there have been several misleading statements about content that is uploaded to Ancestry.com. Pardon me, Millennia Corp., but you do have their link on your program menu so this needs to be said.
If you go to Ancestry.com or RootsWeb.com and click on COPYRIGHT at the very bottom of the page, you'll find the following statement: "Content which has been contributed to public areas of Ancestry sites listed above by users remains the property of the submitter or the original creator and we are a licensed distributor of such content." It then continues with: "Occasionally, a person may feel that content submitted by another user is their property, or is covered by the copyright of someone other than the submitter. Please remember that we are only the distributor of user supplied content and the submitter, not Ancestry, is the one who has violated copyright if such a violation has occurred. However, we will respond to substantiated claims of violation." On another page which explains their Acceptable Use Policy (AUP), this appears: "By submitting Submitted Content to RootsWeb.com, you grant Ancestry, the corporate host of the Service, a limited license to the Submitted Content to use, host, and distribute that Submitted Content and allow hosting and distribution on co-branded Services of that Submitted Content." I have not found anywhere where they state that they own the submitted data. Brian in CA -----Original Message----- From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I think you're directing this to the person that asked about uploading to Ancestry.com under their terms and conditions. Mine was uploaded to Rootsweb's Freepages prior to the Ancestry.com takeover which came under different terms and conditions that did not state anything like this. I removed mine shortly after the Ancestry.com takeover because I did not agree with their terms at that time. I rarely used Ancestry.com's online trees and when I did my trees were usually private. The ones that weren't private I knew the risk and didn't care because I intended to offer the information freely since they were distant lines that were more beneficial to others than to me. Bill Boswell -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of CE Wood Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy When you upload to a website that warns that IT now owns your material, you have given away your ownership. It is then is up to Ancestry to pursue. CE -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of William H. Boswell Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I think you misunderstood my stance on this. I'm not talking about vital record data and the like. I'm talking about specific information that no one else had access to. For instance, I have hundreds of hours of audio interviews where specific information was transcribed and passages used in my notes. Some of this information has shown up word-for-word in other people's trees. If I don't own that information, then who does since it is not publicly available and I still have the original recordings and there are no public copies. Since I had put some of that information online that is my mistake. Most of this information was online for many years because at the time the intentions of most people were good, but lately there seems to be more pirates than good intentions so I took it down. I wouldn't mind so much that the information is used, but the thiefs could at least cite where they got it from instead of taking ownership of my own data. Things like dates and places could have come from anywhere so how can I know where that came from. Specific information word-for-word I can tell if it came from my data. The only thing I ask is that they show some respect for those of us who spent the time and money to research it. Obviously they didn't. Bill Boswell -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include "Photo Courtesy of ..." But just one additional point for William: your "data" does not belong to you and you cannot assert any claim or copyrights over most of the raw data. Images, recordings, stories, look & feel, and other things can be copyrighted. But data like "born in 1850, married in 1870, and died in 1920" cannot belong to anyone. For years there have been long and furious discussions on various forums that addressed this issue. How and why Ancestry.com claims copyright protections on the data on their servers is a matter left for the attorneys and courts to sort out. Brian in CA -----Original Message----- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy William H. Boswell wrote >I've had the same problem with pirating of my data which is why I no >longer upload my information especially on Ancestry.com. I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on line. I don't guarantee that all my data is 100% accurate so if they think it is that's their problem. If they want to deprive themselves of all the fun of doing their own research, that's their problem. On the other hand, if a previously unknown/unfound relative of mine is able to make contact with me because of my online tree, so much the better. Of course, it's always much *nicer* if someone asks if they might use your data and I always try and ask permission of anyone whose online data I might want to use. 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