Thanks for that reassuring information Cathy
Cheers Doug

> On 6 Aug 2017, at 12:18, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There is a lot of bad information and speculation floating about.
> 
> Legacy was last week and is this week a desktop programme. There is no 
> automatic sync of your data anywhere.
> For those using the Legacy Cloud backup, only you have access to it, only you 
> have the password.
> 
> The merger means that Legacy 10 will have the ability to sync your tree with 
> a My Heritage tree. It has been said that this will be entirely optional.
> 
> So your information in Legacy is only going to get somewhere else, including 
> My Heritage, if you or someone you share it with puts it there.
> 
> Cathy
> 
>> Douglas Tighe <mailto:missymoo...@gmail.com>
>> Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:11 AM
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy files 
>> from now on please.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland
>> 
>>> On 6 Aug 2017, at 11:53, <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
>>> <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>> <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
>>> <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy- not 
>>> the other way around.
>>> 
>>> Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but thought 
>>> they may cite sources which could be checked by me.
>>> 
>>> I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a documentary how 
>>> British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes changed official family 
>>> trees in order to justify or make claims to the throne for themselves or 
>>> their descendants.
>>> 
>>> I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies like 
>>> Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants from rural 
>>> hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of continental Europe, 
>>> although a German branch from the time of the HRE included some nobles etc.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> *From:* Maria Fraser <mailto:frase...@clear.net.nz>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>>> Hi John
>>> 
>>> I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have 
>>> described.
>>> 
>>> I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage taking 
>>> control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very 
>>> disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  
>>> several different family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that 
>>> Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue to use without 
>>> hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy my information 
>>> without my permission - silly me.
>>> 
>>> Maria from NZ
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
>>>> various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t 
>>>> remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to 
>>>> enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. 
>>>> From memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to 
>>>> find out how to do it.
>>>> 
>>>> I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
>>>> thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their 
>>>> website.
>>>> 
>>>> You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
>>>> guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to 
>>>> reset everything to defaults that suit them.
>>>> 
>>>> Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact 
>>>> them or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.
>>>> 
>>>> On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
>>>> but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed 
>>>> to be an engineer!
>>>> 
>>>> I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
>>>> users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more 
>>>> features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as 
>>>> users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.
>>>> 
>>>> MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you 
>>>> pay as much possible to search for any.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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>> johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
>> Sunday, 6 August 2017 9:53 AM
>> 
>> I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy- not the 
>> other way around.
>> 
>> Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but thought they 
>> may cite sources which could be checked by me.
>> 
>> I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a documentary how 
>> British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes changed official family 
>> trees in order to justify or make claims to the throne for themselves or 
>> their descendants.
>> 
>> I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies like 
>> Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants from rural 
>> hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of continental Europe, 
>> although a German branch from the time of the HRE included some nobles etc.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> *From:* Maria Fraser <mailto:frase...@clear.net.nz>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
>> *To:* Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>> Hi John
>> 
>> I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have described.
>> 
>> I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage taking 
>> control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very 
>> disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  
>> several different family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that 
>> Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue to use without 
>> hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy my information 
>> without my permission - silly me.
>> 
>> Maria from NZ
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
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>> Maria Fraser <mailto:frase...@clear.net.nz>
>> Sunday, 6 August 2017 9:26 AM
>> Hi John
>> 
>> I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have described.
>> 
>> I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage taking 
>> control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very 
>> disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  
>> several different family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that 
>> Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue to use without 
>> hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy my information 
>> without my permission - silly me.
>> 
>> Maria from NZ
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
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>> johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
>> Sunday, 6 August 2017 8:15 AM
>> 
>> I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
>> various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t 
>> remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to 
>> enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From 
>> memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to find out 
>> how to do it.
>> 
>> I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought 
>> I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website.
>> 
>> You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
>> guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to 
>> reset everything to defaults that suit them.
>> 
>> Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them 
>> or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.
>> 
>> On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
>> but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to 
>> be an engineer!
>> 
>> I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
>> users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more 
>> features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as 
>> users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.
>> 
>> MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you 
>> pay as much possible to search for any.
>> 
>> John
>> 
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