Unluckily this simply confirms that the data cannot be included in OSM.
As I pointed out before, this is simply an indirect subsidy of the
producers of proprietary data and closed systems.

Simon


Am 08.07.2016 um 03:15 schrieb cleary:
> The issue of using the Australian PSMA Administrative Boundaries in OSM
> was discussed in both talk-au and legal-talk lists.  Subsequently I
> submitted a request to the Spatial Unit, Department of Prime Minister
> and Cabinet, seeking permission and stating the issues as clearly as I
> could.  Today I received the following response with my initial request
> shown below.
>
> It explicitly states we are not responsible for the actions of
> downstream users  but I think we need the legal-talk group to clarify if
> the response helps us.  For this reason, this response is being
> submitted to both lists.
>
>
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Spatial <spat...@pmc.gov.au>
> To: "o...@97k.com" <o...@97k.com>
> Cc: Spatial <spat...@pmc.gov.au>
> Subject: RE: Permission for OpenStreetMap to use PSMA Administrative
> Boundaries [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:19:27 +0000
>
> UNCLASSIFIED
> Dear Michael
>
> Thank you for your email seeking clarification about the licensing
> conditions regarding the PSMA Administrative Boundaries dataset.
>
> Given the large volume of public datasets available via data.gov.au
> (over 8,200 datasets), we are unable to provide statements with explicit
> permission for use to individual users.
>
> However, we can provide some clarification regarding your concerns. 
>
> There are no substantial differences between the CC BY 3.0 and the CC BY
> 4.0 licences. A summary of the differences can be found here:
> https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/licensing-considerations/version4/.
>  
> CC BY 4.0 (like CC BY 3.0) does not prevent OpenStreetMap from applying
> your own licence to your products but requires end users to comply with
> the CC BY licence (in relation to the original data).
>
> The preferred attribution for adapted material using the PSMA
> Administrative Boundaries dataset is:
>
> Incorporates or developed using Administrative Boundaries (c)PSMA
> Australia Limited licensed by the Commonwealth of Australia under
> Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International licence (CC BY 4.0).
>
> We can also confirm that OpenStreetMap is not responsible for the
> actions of your downstream users. Given the nature of the CC BY licence,
> your downstream users directly licence the Administrative Boundaries
> data from the Commonwealth. Provided that OpenStreetMap comply with the
> licence, then any breach by third parties leads to automatic termination
> of that third party's rights to use the material and does not impact
> OpenStreetMap's licence.
>
> I trust this information has been of assistance.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Spatial Policy team
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cleary [mailto:o...@97k.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 6:08 PM
> To: Spatial
> Subject: Permission for OpenStreetMap to use PSMA Administrative
> Boundaries
>
>
>
> I am a volunteer contributor to OpenStreetMap (OSM)
> (www.openstreetmap.org) which provides a map, based on open data, for
> use by anyone who wishes to access it. I understand that OpenStreetMap
> is the largest open data map project in the world. Various bodies,
> including some Government organisations, are increasingly using OSM and
> I was pleased to note that some pages on the data.gov.au website are
> using OSM.
>
> Approximately five years ago, OSM was given explicit permission to
> incorporate data from Australian Government public information datasets
> which had been published under CC-BY-2.5 and CC-BY-3.0 licences. The
> explicit permission allowed OSM to incorporate and publish these CC-BY
> licensed geographic coordinate datasets under a free and open license,
> including the Open Database License, provided that attribution was made
> in the Contributors page of the OpenStreetMap Wiki
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors) including each dataset
> being identified with specified informaton. (See
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission)
>
> I write now to request extension of permission to include the PSMA
> Administrative Boundaries.
>
> It is perceived that issues which may require clarification in regard to
> the PSMA Administrative Boundaries are:
>
> 1. The PSMA Administrative Boundaries are provided under a CC-BY-4.0
> licence, not the earlier licences previously specified.
> 2. The explicit permission that OSM received was for data released
> directly by the Australian Government, and it is unclear if that would
> apply to data that which has been licensed from third parties for
> distribution, which seems to be the case with the PSMA boundaries.
> 3. There is a requirement that the data may be used only in ways that
> are consistent with the Australian Privacy Principles. OSM does not
> collect or use personal information about identifiable individuals but
> it cannot guarantee how downstream users might use data published by OSM
> under a free and open licence. If downstream users of OSM are a concern,
> would it be possible for the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet or
> PSMA to identify which datasets are problematic in this regard and
> exclude them, while granting OSM permission to use datasets which would
> not provide any cause for concern in regard to the Privacy Principles?
>
> On behalf of OSM, I request that you provide a further statement which
> can be published in the OSM wiki, specifying which datasets from the
> PSMA Administrative Boundaries may be incorporated into OSM, and stating
> that credit on the Contributors page of the OSM wiki is sufficient to
> fulfil attribution requirements including downstream use in works
> derived from OSM. 
>
> If you require clarification of this request, I would be pleased to
> speak with a Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet or PSMA
> representative by phone or provide further information by email if that
> is preferred.
>
>
> Michael Cleary
> (personal contact details deleted from this reproduction of original)
>
>
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