Shlomi Fish
Sun, 05 Aug 2001 07:37:27 -0700
On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, mulix wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> [shlomif suggested lin-club and lin-club-programming]
>
> [i suggested lin-club-announce and lin-club]
>
> > I don't think the projects are the "core reason for the club's being". The
> > way I see it, the club exists because people happen to like Linux and the
> > various software associated with it, and enjoy giving and attending
> > lectures about it, and (but not only) enjoy conducting projects that
> > relate to it.
> >
> > Do you imply that if the club did not produce a single line of source
> > code, it would have had no right to exist?
>
> of course it would have a right to exist.
> but to be called a 'linux' club, without producing code - that's open to
> debate.
>
I don't think a Linux user or a club of Linux users must produce code in
order to be called a "Linux" club. Linux is not intended only for
programmers, but also for people who would like to use it for their own
day-to-day activity. Some people program on a day-to-day basis. Others
don't. And those others don't violate the Linux "Way of Doing Things"<tm>.
In most successful projects the number of users outnumber the number of
developers. Naturally, the open-source world consist of many projects, and
many people are developers of a few projects and users of many projects.
But I believe it would be altruistic not to label someone who is not
an O-S developer, as a true Linuxer, if he indeed uses Linux and enjoys
it. And altruism is usually a bad idea, but this is not the time or the
place to discuss why. Muli, please write to me in person if you want me to
elaborate on it.
> you might recall me making an informal survey, and finding out most
> (all?) of the club's members are programmers. i think, i really do, that
> a club full of prgrammers should be, at least in part, about
> programming...
>
There could be a club full of programmers dedicated to playing Basketball.
;-) But, seriously, we discuss programming, so we are not entirely
off-topic from our calling. If we actually produce code that can be used
by people outside the club, that's wonderful, but it is not a requirement
of a club.
> > Back to our subject: the reason I suggested the split is to increase the
> > signal-to-noise ratio of the mailing-list for those who are not interested
> > in disucssing the minute details of the projects we take. I do not imply
> > by this, that the projects are any less part of the club's activity.
>
> could we have a show of hands, please? how many of you, club members,
> read or skip r2l related mails?
>
I skip most r2l-related posts so I personally favour placing the
discussion of it and similar projects in a separate mailing-list. But I
have already voiced my opinion.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> --
> mulix
> http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix
>
> linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead
>
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