Shlomi Fish
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 04:24:14 -0700
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > > 5. I wholeheartedly recommend you to switch from filepp to WML. I never > > found the C preprocessor enlightening, so I don't think a web-site powered > > by something that is based on it can scale well. > > > > WML OTOH is designed with HTML in mind, and I believe it can do anything > > filepp does and more. And it is bundled with a lot of useful APIs, and new > > ones can be written using perl and/or m4. (I did not find m4 too much > > enlightening either, but let's skip it.) > > > > 5. Some of your HTML is not conformant to X/HTML. WML > > can fix that automatically. > > It works well for me (it is quite simple, and misses some things, but it > does the job well, IMHO). > > If you think that WML is better, then please give a sample. I'm too lazy > to start installing it and learning it.. > There's an RPM for you and I installed it on Mandrake 8.0 without any problem. The WML site itself is an example for it. Otherwise, there's the site I prepared for my IP-Noise project: http://comnet.technion.ac.il/~cn1w02/ It doesn't demonstrate too much of what WML can do (but then again I did not need much for this site), and I could not get the linkbar to work just right (at least not without hacking at its own code), but it's there. The sources are available from its CVS at the /site/wml sub-dir. For information how to grab them, check: http://developer.berlios.de/cvs/?group_id=161 The WML tutorials are not very long, IMO. And it would be worth your time to read them. > > > > 6. I'd rather have a side navigation bar (as a tree) instead of a top one, > > despite its side effects. > > > > 7. I'd rather not have centered titles other than the main title. > > > > What do others think here? (optionally private mail). > > Note: I'm not sure I want to take the responsibility of the webmaster. > Whoever will be the webmaster will have the final saying here. > I volunteer to be the webmaster, at least temporarily (ASA Orr give me access to the site's directory). In any case, such a thing should be customizable with a macro or a CSS instruction. > > 8. Can you have one common stylesheet file instead of the <style> ... > > </style> tag? (again, WML can handle this automatically). > > I tried it and it didn't work for some reason. I'll try again later. > It's not critical, but a common stylesheet is a good idea, despite the fact that we preprocess the site. > > > > 9. The front page contains too much information IMO. Can you out-source > > some information to other pages? > > As I said, that is in the process. Mainly a matter of cutting and pasting. > OK. > > > > 10. And yet another reason to switch to WML - Its diversion mechanism > > enables the creation of English/Hebrew pages from the same source. I > > suppose the same thing can be done with #ifdef's, but in WML you can also > > code a gettext() like mechanism. > > From my experince: you need two seperate pages. The content is far too > different. If the page is visual Hebrew then any gettext mechanism will > not do. For logical hebrew it may work. OTOH the hebrew page may have a > different content altogether. > I agree that it would not work for visual Hebrew. However, since both Konq and Mozilla (and gasp - IE) support logical Hebrew, I prefer we use it instead. And to hell with the Netscape 4.71 people. Note that I don't plan on working too hard on the Hebrew version for the while, but it should be an option. Regards, Shlomi Fish > -- > Tzafrir Cohen > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://linuxclub.il.eu.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]