Shlomi Fish
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:36:00 -0700
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, mulix wrote: > [ i'll just snip the attributions from here on ] > > > Cool. Except that best viewed using lynx should be changed to best viewed > > using any browser. > > agreed. a linux site sould support the lowest common denominator, which > is text based browsers. supporting IE5.0 and up is NOT acceptable ;) > Yes, but I don't think we should support broken broswers such as Netscape 4.7. At least not in a high priority. My Perl and Gimp Lectures do not look too well on it because I used CSS. Some people criticized me for using it, (Alon even made sure I used Konqueror above an ssh-tunneled VNC connection ... :-) ) But I think that CSS is a good and useful technology and that the bugs are in Netscape, not in my HTML. > > > i'm very sure about this one . > > > I think there sould be only one graphic element in such site : the logo ... > > after thinking about it some more, i agree, with one possible caveat - > potentially make it logos, in the plural. for example, the w2l lectures > will have a logo, i assume, and the syscalltrack project should have one > too soon (right, guy?). > I don't mind such logos. Just don't forget the ALT tags and make them small-sized. If the logo is too sophisticated to be compressed efficiently, one should dump it in favour of a more compressed one. But I can live without any logos whatsoever. None of the sites I maintain has a logo, but I do have a "Back to my homepage" button, which I designed myself in Corel-Draw (for Windows). Check: http://techst02.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/art/bk2hp/ to see it and for info on how I created it. It's 3K in size BTW. > > > i have some more comments about the latest proposed designes for the haifux > > > club site: > > > > > > a. I love the site the way it is now. Please do not add any > > > frames/graphics/other evil elements ! (BTW: i think that putting picture in > > > the background as in current site is evil too. backgroung for such sites > > > should be white.) > > i agree. the background and/or the large table on the current site > causes it to render quite slowly witn netscape 4.7. for me. > My problem is the large table. The image is 1.816 KB. It makes no sense that it causes it to render slowly. And let me repeat what I said throughout this thread: Netscape 4.7 - die! die! die! Long live Mozilla, Netscape 6.x, Konqueror, IE (gasp) and any other browser which is more standards compliant. But then again, IE 5.0 does not have complete support for XSL transformations, which may be the next holy war after CSS. So let's be revolutionary for our own time: IE 5.0 - die! die! die! :-) > > No frames - agreed. But a nice navigation bar and splitting the site into > > several pages is a good idea. And I kinda like the background picture. I > > don't think it's large enough to be a hog, and it makes the site look > > nicer, IMO. > > i agree about splitting the content into smaller pages, and i would vote > to ditch the background image. > I don't think the background image is the problem. Consider installing Konqeuror or Galeon or Netscape 6.1 or whatever. > > FOA, we are not a LUG but rather a Linux Club. Secondly, the mass of > > lectures we had and are going to have justifies a re-structuring of the > > site. > > shlomi, care to elaborate on the distinction? i was under the impression > it's exactly the same thing. > Well, from what I know we are part of the Israeli LUG which is IGLU. But I'm not in the mood to discuss petty differences between a LUG and a Linux Club. But any way you look at it, our site should not be HTML hell. So, I suggest we carry this discussion off-line for the next meeting of the _club_. :-) Regards, Shlomi Fish > -- > mulix > > http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix > http://www.sf.net/projects/syscalltrack > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://linuxclub.il.eu.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]