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Re: [Haifux] using unix page: early draft

Nadav Har'El
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:34:26 -0700

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "[Haifux] using unix page: early 
draft":
> In this course the students write two c++ assignments, and one csh
> assignment (right, Alon?)

Forgive my asking (I guess that everybody here already knows my position on
csh ;)), but why is the Technion still teaching csh?? Csh has been considered
inferior to almost any alternative (ksh, bash, zsh) for at least a decade...
Do they teach csh anywhere else in the world?
[Google for "csh programming considered harmful" for Tom Christiansen's
essay on why csh is bad].

I see *all the time* people coming out of the technion, with knowing only
one shell: csh. When they try to write their first real script, csh barfs on
them...

P.S.: Before someone tells me that tcsh is good for interactive work but
not for programming: For this to make any sense at all, it would need to
mean that the students study two shells and choose one for interactive work
and another for programming. But it's not what happening - students I've
seen study only one shell (csh), and then try to use it both interactively
and for scripting.

P.S.#2: After the Technion moves to another shell, my next project will be to
do something about its fixation with pine ;)

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