Re: [Haifux] using unix page: early draft

[Etzion Bar-Noy]

I would say that I find 'pine' a powerfull e-mail client.
It can do almost anything. It can even call a picture viewer if you're
working with X.

It can be used, remote or local. It can work with few directories, mail
boxes, even methods of reading mail (it can do it all - POP3, IMAP, file
parsing).
Ok, so you do not like pico? So what? You can change the default editor to
be something else. I use vi. I use almost only vi, but for writing e-mail,
and not scripts where copy/paste is a must, or you have to wipe out 19 lines
in minimum time, pico does the work.

I really don't know what you have against pine, and, on the same breath,
pico.

I have it running at home, btw. No problems ever...

Ez.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Haifa Linux Club" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Haifux] using unix page: early draft


> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "[Haifux] using unix
page: early draft":
> > > In this course the students write two c++ assignments, and one csh
> > > assignment (right, Alon?)
> >
> > Forgive my asking (I guess that everybody here already knows my position
on
> > csh ;)), but why is the Technion still teaching csh?? Csh has been
considered
> > inferior to almost any alternative (ksh, bash, zsh) for at least a
decade...
> > Do they teach csh anywhere else in the world?
>
> I figure that it is enough to get those silly jobs (from the assignments)
> done.
>
> But the student learns about piping, and about simple tools like head,
> tail, cut, cat and alike (the assingment forbids you explicitly to use awk
> and sed. Hmmm... they haven't mentioned perl). So moving from there to
> bourne shell is not very difficult.
>
> > [Google for "csh programming considered harmful" for Tom Christiansen's
> > essay on why csh is bad].
>
> The link is already in the page (look at the bottom). This is one spesific
> point where I could not agree with the course syllabus.
>
>
> > P.S.#2: After the Technion moves to another shell, my next project will
be to
> > do something about its fixation with pine ;)
>
> I considered mutt. The problem is:
>
> * it is not availble on Tx and CSD (it took me a lot of bugging just to
>   get the sysadmins to upgrade pine to a decent version)
>
> * I could not get mutt to do something similar to pine's multiple folder
>   collections. This is quite important for me.
>
> (and pine has some useful features. It is certainly not a very bad mailer.
> And you can use an alternative editor ;-)
>
> --
> Tzafrir Cohen
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
>
>
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