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Re: [Haifux] A suggested lecture for the W2L

Orna Agmon
Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:45:43 -0700

I think adding a lecture for Windows expert is a good idea, and indeed
belongs in the W2L.
On the other hand, how about an end user who wants a client to work with
the
exchange server the institution is already running, but wishes to use
Linux? (This needs not wait for W2L, necesarily)

Orna.
-- 
There are only 10 types of people in the world-
Those who understand binary, and those who do not.

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Ez-Aton wrote:

> Well, people, I thought to myself - Linux, as it is today in Israel, is yet unmature 
>for desktop usage, except on an expert systems. Anyone using Latech would have to be 
>some sort of expert, and might be expert enough (or crazy enough, or whatever) to 
>probably use Linux as well.
>
> Most of our newbies are not as experts as we are (or as we expect), so, home usage 
>would be limited (in the better case) to the 2nd computer, or to "I learned some 
>Linux, and it was cool/suck.
>
> I would like to suggest another topic, which is only partial technical issue 
>(explenation ahead) - the small / medium company server.
>
> My experiance thought me that many IT personel (which I would call lamers, but 
>that's me) know of some solutions (A, B & C, for example), and they will never step 
>aside from these solutions, because, well, when you know something works (more or 
>less), you would not stick your head into something you never tried before, or only 
>heard about (well, such as Linux).
> My suggestion is a short lecture for the tech-but-non-Linux people (yep, a small 
>group, but they will be the ones to bring Linux into buisnesses in Israel), that is, 
>to the Windows oriented people, showing how Linux can simplify life for the tech guy. 
>How Linux (using charts and stuff) works longer, is more stable, easier to configure 
>(especially from remote). How there are Exchange competible solutions to Linux 
>servers, how you can save on hardware, because you used Linux (and you don't need two 
>monster computers just for auth and mail), how this exchange competible works with 
>outlook (which is an important factor), how there is no 16GB limit for mail and 
>stuff, and how it saves lots of money to a place, and still does the same. in short - 
>how being open minded, will save both money, downtime, maintanace cost, hardware 
>price. It is crushial that these tech people will see how difficult Win tasks can be 
>simple using Linux (Kickstart, BTW, is one of the great IT tools one can use to 
>replicate servers with exactly the same SW configuration, no matter what HW it is).
> I'm talking big, and I'm talking about a long, partially technical, and partially 
>"sales" lecture, designed to show these people the light - to show them how you can 
>buy Oracle (without using its special features) because you know MS SQL sux, or you 
>can use MySQL, and save few K$s. More examples from you people are welcomed.
>
> It should be part of the W2L, because unlike the home section, which deals with "how 
>to operate netscape", we are talking big - how to use a mail server, and how to save 
>my company lots of money.
>
> I'm dead tired, so I might be repeating myself, but I think you got the idea.
> This lecture should be marked for "Windows techs and experts", and should require 
>prior participation in "administration" lecture (one cannot explain how to use the 
>start and stop of a service from remote, if the guy doesn't know what service is, or 
>how to start/stop one).
>
> I think it might be a good idea to take it one step further, and make a W2L-Advanced 
>set of lectures, designed for the profs of Win servers and services, in order to 
>bring Linux to the place where it is really at its best - the server arena.
>
> What do you say?
>
> Ez.
>
>


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