Matt Benjamin
Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:28:41 -0800
Dan, There is something called, something like, "TCM" which is free to use, binary-only, a university project. It does very well at org charts, and lots of similar applications. The URL is: http://www.isp.mu-luebeck.de/html/software/PD/tcm Regards, Matt On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Dan York wrote: > linux-cert, > > This has nothing to do with certification... it's just a personal note... > > If any of you - or anyone you know - are interested in developing > a piece of software to contribute back to the Linux community, > or just looking for an interesting programming challenge - here's > a place you can help... org charts. > > They're not a sexy topic.... nothing overly exciting... and, > in fact, for a lot of Linux organizations and startups, the > very idea of having an organization chart might be foreign... but > as Linux expands out into the larger IT world... well... there's > a lot of people and companies out there that want to make org charts. > > I have tried for the last week or so to make an org chart describing > the structure of LPI (requested by someone making a presentation to > potential sponsors) and to do so with Linux. > > First I tried with Applixware... and I was able to draw an initial > chart - but when I wanted to rearrange and move items around it was a > MAJOR headache and I soon gave up. > > So I started searching http://www.freshmeat.net/ , http://www.linuxapps.com/ > and http://metalab.unc.edu/ . I searched for terms like "org chart", > "organization chart", "chart", > "diagram", "Visio" (after the PC network > diagramming software) and came up with only a very few suggestions. > > One was for KOffice, which I checked into and saw KChart, but was > unable to get it all working. (http://koffice.kde.org/kchart/) > I had trouble with the download, and perhaps I just need to try > it again, but the web site does say it is *pre*-alpha, so I was > a bit reluctant to spend too much time on it, especially since the > KChart web page said nothing about its capabilities. > > Another suggestion, which was also supplied from some mailing lists to > which I posed the question, was for Dia: > > http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/dia.html > > Which turned out to be a great tool! It didn't do exactly what I > wanted... but I was able to draw boxes, rearrange things, etc., etc. > It was working great, and has a great set of features.... I was > pleased and excited... > > And then last night, after 45 minutes of working on it, during which > time I was saving the file every 5 to 10 minutes, Dia suddenly died > and disappeared completely from my screen. However, what was worse > was that somehow the program also *erased* completely the file that I > was working on! I spent a significant amount of time using "find" and > other tools to try to locate the file and had to conclude that it was > gone. So I just shut down my system and went to bed... > > This morning, not wanting to go through all that again and being > under a deadline, I went over to the NT box I have in my office, > launched Microsoft PowerPoint, launched the embedded Org Chart > tool, designed the whole chart and exported it to a PNG file - all in > about 20 minutes. > > In fairness, PowerPoint has been around for a good number of > years now, and the MS developers have had plenty of time to add > and improve things... and the world of Linux GUI apps is still > quite new... still... it was an annoying setback for my personal > desire to use only Linux apps for daily operations. > > So... if any of you are looking for a way to contribute... here's > a place we could definitely use a tool. Whether it's an enhancement > to Dia... or KChart... or a completely separate app (heck, I'd even > take a non-GUI app that generated a chart off of some type of XML file!) > .. whatever... here's a definite hole waiting to be filled! > > Frustrated in org-chart-land, > Dan > > P.S. If anyone *does* work on such a program, I'll be GLAD to be > a beta-tester! > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------- > Dan York, Certification Program Manager, Linuxcare, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxcare.com/ > 1-603-264-0129 mobile, 603-268-0691 tel, 603-268-0103 fax > Linuxcare. At the center of Linux. > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This message was sent by the linux-cert mailing list. To unsubscribe: > echo unsubscribe | mail -s '' [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ________________________________________________________________________ This message was sent by the linux-cert mailing list. To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail -s '' [EMAIL PROTECTED]