Re: New York WTC

[Joel Hammer]

> 
> No you are correct it started long before. England and france were far to complacent
> and wanted to appease instead of doing.

It wasn't just England and France. I have a first hand account by the
English Ambassador at Munich. The great appeasement
occurred at Munich. There Hitler got want he wanted, the
removal of the German territory of the Sudentenland from Czechoslovakia, an artificial 
nation
created by the victors of WWI, which included the Sudentenland to punish the
Germans for losing.
Hitler claimed the German "minority" in the Sudentenland was being abused.
When Chamberlain told Hitler that he could have the Sudetenland
without any strings attached, as Hitler demanded, Hitler seemed taken aback.
Then he recovered and said words which should be better known:
"Es tut mir furchtbar leid, aber das geht nicht mehr."
Translated: I am very sorry, but that is no longer of any use."
The reason: Hungary and Poland also had territorial claims against
Czechoslovakia, and Hitler was going to see to it that they got what they
wanted, too.
As regards the human rights of Germans in the Sudentenland, after the war,
the German population of the Sudentenland, about
3 million people I believe, was removed and replaced by Czechs.
As soon as they got out from under the Russian boot,
the Czechs and Slovaks split up their "country" as fast as they could,
emphasizing the fact the Czechoslovakia was an artificial country.
SO, were is the morality here? I conclude, you lose, you pay.
> 
> > We didn't get
> > involved in WW II in 1941. There was no world war until we got involved.
> 
> Absolute BULLSHIT!!
> 
> >
> > And, what beyond weakening Germany and Japan was achieved by this war?
> > Nothing, as far as I can see. To celebrate WW II as a "good" war is beyond
> > belief.
> 
> You mean to say that ending the Holacaust was not enough, that stopping the 
>occupation of
> Europe and opression was not enough.

Abraham Lincoln, in his Gettysburg address, is credited with convincing the
American Public that the civil war was not what it was advertised as. It was
supposed to be a quick war to bring the errant Southern States back into the
Union. After ten of thousands of deaths, that explanation was no longer
enuf. It just wasn't worth the loss of life to achieve that goal. So, he changed the 
war
into a great moral crusade, after the fact, so to speak.
Well, that is the same with WWII. There is very slender evidence that the
England or the USA had any interest in saving the Jews from Hitler. In fact,
the Holocaust was very successful. The Jews were removed from all areas of
Europe under the control of the German army.
If we fought to save the Jews of Europe, we failed.
And, WWII replaced Nazi oppression with Communist oppression. Not much
better in most ways, since by any accounting method, the Communists killed
more innocents that the Nazis (They had more time to do it.)
Joel


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