Hi Dianne,
I'm glad that you wore a ribbon, and I'm
glad that you have fought for open meetings
on the MAC. And as one of Berkman's newests
appointments, I hope your perspective works
its way into the Berkman center, instead of
the other way around.
My complaint, however, still stands.
Jay.
At 06:24 PM 7/11/99 , Diane Cabell wrote:
>Gee, Jay, I wore a gray ribbon the whole time in Berlin.
>
>The MAC (with Berkman research support) voted to recommend that *all* meetings of
>the ICANN at-large membership meetings be open to the general public as well as to
>the membership. Only two of us on the MAC demanded open meetings when the committee
>first got underway, but by the end of the project, we had near unanimity on this
>point and by then were holding our own meetings in the open as well. Working on the
>MAC allowed us to spread that word beyond this listserv and the results were good.
>
>Lessig is part of Berkman but other faculty may have differing views and not all of
>them get the kind of press that Larry does or even feel that the media is the best
>place to influence policy. You will not find Berkman (or any other division of
>Harvard) claiming to represent the political opinions of its personnel; those
>opinions are personal, not institutional. It may take a position on legal issues,
>but not on politics.
>
>My recent criticism of particular ICANN decisions has been reported in the press,
>but it has obviously escaped your notice. Dad blinked and missed it too, though.
>
>Diane Cabell
>Berkman Fellow
>HLS
>
>
>
>Jay Fenello wrote:
>
>> You're right Jonathan,
>>
>> My apologies for not being specific enough.
>>
>> Berkman has added much to the openness of many
>> of the ICANN functions, and I was wrong to state
>> my complaint as it is stated below.
>>
>> My reference was to this sudden change of
>> wind. The Commerce Department *now* saying
>> that closed board meetings are un-acceptable.
>>
>> Then, we get this from Joe:
>>
>> >ICANN officials say they're happy to comply. "It's actually quite a
>> >positive development," said ICANN Counsel Joe Sims. "What happens is the
>> >debate takes place among the same small group of knowledgeable people, and
>> >each of them have their own axes to grind. Unless we're doing an absolutely
>> >awful job, getting light shone on it ought to be good."
>>
>> What a Crock!
>>
>> And while Berkman was there to provide web
>> broadcasts, I don't remember Berkman ever
>> taking a critical position against ICANN
>> (except Larry Lessig, whom I still greatly
>> admire and respect).
>>
>> It seems no-one dare do so in public, until
>> the tide turns, then everyone jumps on the
>> bandwagon.
>>
>> Like I said, I'm tired of this brinksmanship.
>> These conciliatory moves are simply too little,
>> too late.
>>
>> Fool me once . . .
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Jay Fenello
>> President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-943-0524
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> What's your .per(sm)? http://www.iperdome.com
>>
>> At 02:34 PM 7/11/99 , Jon Zittrain wrote:
>> >Jay,
>> >
>> >See <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann>,
>> ><http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rcs>, <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/ifwp>,
>> ><http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/whois>.
>> >
>> >Webcasts of meetings, open MAC sessions, open research (remember our
>> >January meeting?), remote participation architectures, and a comprehensive,
>> >free primary source archive of that which has come from both IFWP and
>> >ICANN--openness isn't something the Berkman Center has come to only lately,
>> >and the extent of our institutional participation and labor has been all
>> >about building and refining architectures for openness. And civil
>> >exchange. For my part, I don't think I'm acting "conciliatory" after
>> >coming around from an opposite view. I'm simply trying to engage on the
>> >list respectfully, after a long period of not participating at all because
>> >of the tired, personal nature of so many of the exchanges. ...JZ
>> >
>> >At 02:16 PM 7/11/99 , Jay Fenello wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Well, isn't this just grand.
>> >>
>> >>After 9 months of complaints by many members of this
>> >>list, and many members of the Internet community in
>> >>general, it now seems that *everyone* agrees with us.
>> >>
>> >>Oh, how comforting.
>> >>
>> >>Too bad that neither the Commerce Department, nor
>> >>the Berkman Center, nor ICANN itself ever seemed to
>> >>care about sunshine and openness before.
>> >>
>> >>Frankly, I'm tired of this game of brinksmanship.
>> >>These conciliatory moves are simply too little, too
>> >>late.
>> >>
>> >>Fool me once . . .
>> >>
>> >>Respectfully,
>> >>
>> >>Jay Fenello
>> >>President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-943-0524
>> >>-----------------------------------------------
>> >>What's your .per(sm)? http://www.iperdome.com
>> >
>> >
>> >Jon Zittrain
>> >Executive Director, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School
>> >http://cyber.law.harvard.edu
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>
>--
>
>Diane Cabell
>http://www.mama-tech.com
>Fausett, Gaeta & Lund, LLP
>Boston, MA
>
Respectfully,
Jay Fenello
President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-943-0524
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