Johnathan Barnes
Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:43:04 -0700
----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob: And so, if you are attempting to be honest, you will be open to questioning from others who may not feel or see the absence of violence in yourself as you do. I feel that to compare your- self with others IS violence and causes division, especially when your belief causes you to make a distinction between yourself and them as "most people but not me". I am not condemning comparison; I am examining just how a mind that compares itself can, at the same time, be free of separation and isolation, both of which are the basis of comparison, and both of which, as the basis of comparision require projection as "me" and "them". You consistently say that you are free in some sense, yet you consis- tently say that your mind operates divisively, like "most people's" minds do. You seem to be straddling the fence, jumping from one side to the other when it is convenient. I am question- ing what I feel is this unprecedented, dual ability to be free yet bound. ---------------- I've said I'm pretty much free from suffering and violence, which I am. I've said I'm not free from fear, which I'm not. I think all minds work divisively and comparatively to a certain extent - including Krishnamurti's. It's the deep, subconscious comparisons that create the difficulties, imo. Okay? Thanks for another vigorous discussion, Bob. Johnathan - +++ First Aid: email 'intro listening-l' to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +++