>>> - numbers of developers (no point coming up with cool
tools/technology if no one uses it)
>>>  - resources to help those developers (getting started / moving forward)

As I said before, iI think c# developers are the easy sell... I think more 
focus needs to be placed on designers to get this puppy off the ground.

BTW I am a developer by all means... I don't have a lot of design experience 
(well I think I do sometimes)... I need and want good developers who know their 
way around the required bits of SL/Expression to work with in the future.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 11:00 AM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Damian Edwards
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually there's probably less work because XAML is a controlled and strict
> environment the tooling is much better and can be trusted more. Using the
> designer and palettes in Expression Web or VS2008 to build your CSS styles
> is not WYSIWYG and for experienced CSS coders is actually, usually, slower.
> Compare that to Blend where creating reusable styles is a joy.

so you're saying the development road-bumps are smoothed by the
tooling for Silverlight? I wonder what you make of this then?

http://www.sdtimes.com/MICROSOFT_CO_SPONSORS_ECLIPSE_PROJECT_FOR_SILVERLIGHT/About_OPENSOURCE_and_SILVERLIGHT_and_ECLIPSE_and_MICROSOFT_and_SOYATEC/32968

Look, at the end of the day, there's not going to be a lot of
difference between Flex and Silverlight.

an XML-type markup language to describe the UI, a Java-type language
for logic and object creation. Meh. Same (basic) leopard, different
spots.

Tooling *is* important with quality intellesence, and designer-built
interfaces. That's why in the Flex world the tool of choice (not
exclusive) is built on Eclipse - to smooth the transition for those
Java and ColdFusion developers working with Flex. Couple that with
Adobe designer products pushing out Flex UI's.  Microsoft has always
had quality tooling with VisualStudio

but where the "battle" will be fought (and it doesn't have to be red
team Vs blue team but simply horses for courses) is ... (in order, my
opinion)

 - the client runtime availability (the SL player Vs the Flash Player)
and therefore the potential reach of the application (so what's wrong
with SL being the perfect choice for inhouse apps with a fixed
Windows-based SOE?)
 - numbers of developers (no point coming up with cool
tools/technology if no one uses it)
 - resources to help those developers (getting started / moving forward)


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