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[LUTE] Re: theorbo in Spain?

Antonio Corona
Sun, 11 May 2008 21:34:45 -0700

Dear Howard,

According to Martin McLeish, in his article:

"An Inventory of
Musical Instruments at the Royal Palace, Madrid, in 1602", GSJ, 21, 1968, pp.
108-128,

Joan de Rojas Carrión, royal "violero" compiled an inventory on May 13 1602 
(should I wait for the anniversary?) where the theorbos under consideration are 
mentioned. The document is part of the collection known as the "Barbiery 
papers", now at the Biblioteca Nacional Madrid (MSS 14017/6). This is further 
confirmed in:

Francisco Asenjo Barbieri, _Documentos sobre música española y epistolario 
(Legado Barbieri)_, edited by Emilio Casares, Madrid: Fundación Banco Exterior, 
1988, vol 2, p. 72, 

where the inventory is named as: "Instrumentos de música, tasados por  Juan de 
Rojas Carrión, violero en Madrid, a 13 de mayo de 1602 (...)".

The inventory mentions, among may other instruments (including several lutes), 
a thirteen-course " tiorvia with two heads and to bridges (...) made in Padua" 
and "a tiorvia with two heads made like a lute" of which no further details are 
given, except that the back is varnished, with stripes of ivory, which is 
valued at 300 reales.

It would seem, therefore, that we are indeed talking of Felipe II.

With best wishes, 
Antonio

----- Original Message ----
From: howard posner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LUTELIST <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Sunday, 11 May, 2008 8:13:50 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: theorbo in Spain?

On May 1, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Manolo Laguillo wrote:

> In the DICCIONARIO DE INSTRUMENTOS MUSICALES, Barcelona 2001, under
> 'tiorba', the author of it, Ramon Andres, after mentioning an inventar
> of possesions of Felipe II, the king of Spain, where two theorbos
> figure,

Are we really talking about Felipe II here?  He died in 1598, which  
seems early for theorbos to be in Spain.  Felipe III died in 1621 and  
Felipe IV in 1665.
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