Dear Rainer
Antonio Rotta, Intabolatura de lauto di lo eccelentissimo musicho
messer Antonio Rotta di recercari, motetti, balli, ... Libro primo,
Venice, 1546.
Best wishes,
Antonio
P.S. Sorry for the reply to all, my old computer is quite temperamental
about these matters.
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From: Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
To: Lute net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, 6 March 2017, 6:47
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments
I am not at all interested in discussing Wikipedia's policy.
I simply wanted to know if anybody knows any printed tablature before
barley with ornaments.
And I really do not want to receive every reply twice.
Rainer
On 06.03.2017 13:41, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> Wikipedia has strict rules against original research, and all
information
> it permits has to externally documented with reliable scholarly
sources.
> RT
>
>
> On 3/6/2017 7:31 AM, Rainer wrote:
>> Of course, Wiki is unreliable.
>> And - of course - there is no reason to believe the citation is
incorrect.
>>
>> However, why do you think I have asked for prints before 1596?
>>
>> Barley has ornaments.
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>> As usual you have pressed reply to all :)
>>
>> On 06.03.2017 12:32, Ron Andrico wrote:
>>> While Wikipedia is untrustworthy in most respects, in this case
it may
>>> be correct. While ornaments appear liberally in manuscript
sources,
>>> and there are various indications for right-hand fingering and
>>> left-hand holds in earlier typeset prints of lute music,
Vallet's
>>> tablatures were engraved in copper, a very costly procedure that
>>> probably contributed to his personal financial ruin. But this
was the
>>> only means of adding the extraordinarily detailed slurs,
fingerings and
>>> ornament signs to his printed tablatures. Since the statement
>>> attributed to Herr Neumann is qualified with "may have been",
there is
>>> no reason to doubt the claim.
>>>
>>> RA
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
<[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf
>>> of Rainer <[3]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 10:49 AM
>>> To: Lute net
>>> Subject: [LUTE] Earliest printed tablature with ornaments
>>>
>>> Dear lute netters,
>>> According to Wikipedia
>>> "According to Frederick Neumann,[2] Vallet may have been among
the
>>> first to introduce ornaments into lute tablature."
>>> Of course this is nonsense.
>>> Anyway, does anybody know of printed tablature with ornaments
before
>>> 1596?
>>> Rainer
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