"I'm gonna build a wall! The Picts are gonna pay for it! Make Albion
   great again!"  -Hadrian Trumpus.
   Didn't work too well for the Chinese either. As far as I know, the
   Mongols & the Manchus still haven't even coughed up a single yuan.
   On 5/28/2017 12:00 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:

   >Perhaps we should hire President Trump to build a wall for us.

   I seem to recall some guy named Hadrian attempted the barrier solution
   a few years back.  But I for one would donate money if you would hire
   Donald Trump to build a wall, just as long as you keep him busy and
   keep him over there.
   RA
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   From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [2]<lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf
   of [3]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk [4]<mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
   Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:59 PM
   To: [5]howardpos...@ca.rr.com
   Cc: LutList
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cumbées?
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   From: [6]howardpos...@ca.rr.com
   Date: 28/05/2017 0:08
   To: "Lute List"[7]<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Subj: [LUTE] Re: Cumbées?   > On May 27, 2017, at 6:37 AM, 
[8]mjlhall@tiscal
i.co.uk wrote:
   >
   >  there were a lot of Africans in Spain during
   > the 16th and 18th centuries. North African is just a short distance
   > across the Mediterranean from Spain.
   Tangier is, but it's 3,300 kilometers from Gibraltar to Dakar and 4,500
   kilometers to Sierra Leone.  Is the cumbee a Moorish dance?
    - That is a good question.  Spain held territories in North Africa and
   Spain and Portugal navigated down the west coast of Africa long before
   they reached the New World. Vasco da Gama sailed to India round the
   southern tip of Africa etc. at the same time that Columbus discovered
   the West Indies. So the idea that any African dances must have come
   from Mexico doesn't really hold water. I think the received wisdom is
   that the cumbees, paracumbe and guinea and a few others all came from
   Guinea or that part of Africa rather than from north of the Sahara.
   Distance is not really a factor - it was Aristotle I believe - correct
   me if I am wrong - who said "We Greeks live like frogs around a pond".
   The Mediterranean is not much of a barrier - refugees are flooding from
   Africa into Europe in boatloads by that route today. Perhaps we should
   hire President Trump to build a wall for us. A suspension bridge might
   be a better idea - fewer people would drown. The Roman Empire
   encompassed a lot of North Africa and Spain was invaded by people from
   North Africa long before the Moors arrived and some of them must have
   been ethnically African.
    - So take your pick.
   Monica

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