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> Wouldn't we trust Snowden more on this? Yes, and no. Both can be true. I had a similar issue with the headlines that the NYTimes article is talking about, but wouldn't take it as far as the article to act like it encompasses the actual information contained in the leaks. The headlines made it sound like Signal and others were compromised. This isn't the case, the phones are compromised. There is actually another NYTimes article that sort of explains this, https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/03/11/technology/ap-us-tec-wikileaks-cia-tech-encryption.html It is important both to not claim such methods "break Signal" or to give the false sense of security that you are 100% safe just by using Signal. Tristan _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com