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https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/04/04/mobster-in-chief-donald-trump-life-imitates-art/ This is way beyond normal. On May 10, 2017 8:33 PM, "Carl G. Estabrook" <galli...@illinois.edu> wrote: > Perhaps Trump is just not so canny in furthering his own personal > financial interests as Obama (and HRC). But does that represent a crisis of > the ruling class? > > The greatest threat to the international bourgeoisie (represented in the > White House particularly by Gary Cohn) seems today to be populism/‘economic > nationalism’ (represented in the White House by Steve Bannon). > > We certainly should be considering the implications of that. Regards, Carl > > > > On May 10, 2017, at 10:15 PM, John Reimann <1999wild...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't know if Carl read the article I sent or is just responding in > general, but I most definitely did not mention that the Comey firing was an > assault on "democracy", nor did I mention anthing about Russian hacking the > election. I did mention Trump's financial ties to Russian > investors/oligarchs/mobsters, and this is simply a matter of record. It's > well established. And I did say that Trump is using the executive branch of > the US government to further his own personal financial interests at the > expense of the global interests of the mainstream of the US capitalist > class. > > Why are we supposed to care? > > Try this: If the enemy is in crisis, shouldn't we be aware of it and > consider its implications? > > John Reimann > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galli...@illinois.edu> > wrote: > >> [John Steppling] I keep reading postings about how Trump firing the head >> of the FBI is an assault on democracy, or the American way of life, or >> something. The front page of the Huffington Post is hysterical with cries >> for the need to investigate Russian hacking. I have had three friends (sic) >> refuse to discuss this with me when I questioned their sanity in believing >> the russian hacking narrative. Not argue it...but refuse to argue it. Not >> one, but three. There is no evidence of anything out of the ordinary here. >> If there were, trust me we would have heard about it by now. >> >> So what I take from this is that the white establishment....to which the >> aforementioned friends belong, really, is in crises. If Obama had fired the >> head of the FBI what would the reaction have been? (the answer is nothing.) >> >> But how is the US/Saudi assault on a defenceless Yemen not an assault on >> Democracy? I mean congress didn't authorize it did they? Or how is the orgy >> of state murder in Arkansas...including the suppression of new evidence >> that might have exonerated one of the men executed.....how is that not an >> assault on Democracy? How is the illegal assassination of Qadaffi not an >> assault on Democracy or the coup orchestrated by Clinton as secretary of >> state in Ukraine not an assault on Democracy? How is the coup in Honduras >> or the current attacks on Venezuela not ....well...you get the idea. How is >> the war on Syria.....and it is ON SYRIA.....how is that not cause for >> outrage? None of these things matter to liberal America. Dead Arab >> children....pshaw...can't be bothered. The execution of mentally impaired >> men, from the underclass, denied adequate representation....meh, cant be >> bothered. BUT....but when Trump fires the head of a notoriously corrupt >> organ of surveillance and arrest and worse.....an organization founded to >> quell dissent and rid the nation of commies and minority >> troublemakers......how am I supposed to care exactly?… >> >> >> > On May 10, 2017, at 3:37 PM, John Reimann via Marxism < >> marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: >> > >> > Make no mistake, President Trump's firing of FBI director John Comey >> > represents a crisis for the US capitalist class. It's one more >> indication >> > that it cannot control the executive wing of its government. Trump >> claims >> > that he fired Comey because of the latter's handling of the >> investigation >> > of Hillary Clinton and his lack of repentence over this. However, just >> days >> > before the firing it's reported that Comey had asked for additional >> funds >> > to investigate alleged Russian meddling into the US elections. Such an >> > election would inevitably have opened up the financial ties between >> Trump >> > and Russian investors and outright mobsters. >> > >> > https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/05/10/comey-fired-us-a-failing-state/ >> > >> > John Reimann >> > >> >> > > > -- > "No one is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them." > Asata Shakur > Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com and //www.facebook.com/ > WorkersIntlNetwork?ref=stream > > > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
