In a message dated 8/23/2009 3:05:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _t...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:t...@hotmail.com) writes: >> Look, you still don't get it, these Healyite provacateurs SUED the SWP in the US courts in the 1980s around these trumped up allegations causing that party to spend tens of thousands of dollars in court and attorneys fees fighting it. Maybe if you knew about this you'd realize that an attitude of solidarity is called for and not hand wringing about factionalism and overheated rhetoric. Maybe if it was Sam Marcy or Gloria LaRiva they had attacked you'd feel different and realize what this is about. Their latest antic was during the recent auto strike when they went around placing their main fire on the UNION which they claim is no longer a union and which workers should abandon, not pointing out the difference between the union and its reformist leaders. The whole raison d'etre of this outfit, rooted in the same political milieu as Lyndon LaRouche, is to harass and disrupt the Left.<<
Reply You are probably right . . . I just don’t get it. Let’s start with Lyndon LaRouche. Prior to the start of their "Mop Up Campaign," - against the CPUSA, the NCLC sent one of their black sociopath's to our office with a copy of Marx’s "Poverty of Philosophy." His task was to "feel us out" and present an ultimatum to us: join their group or get "mopped up." His intent was to try and create his modality for a fascist paramilitary group on us. Finding this proposition amazing but not amusing, we politely listened, examined and studied the relevant passages presented by this psychopath - Zeke Boyd to be exact, then asked if he were willing to bring some of his comrades to the office or any meeting place of his desire for further study. Upon agreement we proceeded to present a non-literary propaganda form to convince them it was best they approached the CPUSA, or someone us less desperate. Apparently LaRouche himself made a decision we "were not worth expending organizational resources on." This was no isolated incident. Previously Emily Mazy -Secretary Treasure of the UAW, had branded us black fascist, who deserved nothing more than caskets for our union activity. This was in harmony with a section of the local AFL-CIO/Teamsters, who had threatened to carry out all kinds of foul deeds on us because of our armed intrusion into the building trade unions demanding that our card carrying member be hired. There are different forms of propaganda. Our particular ideology finds asking to be hired during a period of labor shortage offensive. Our motto was "arm yourself or harm yourself." Our ideology was "It is better to die on ones feet than live on ones knees." Since the struggle presented itself as being skipped over for employment - (with employers demanding more laborers and the union refusing to supply them) the issue was quite clear. Actually, it was this "nor literary propaganda" that lead to Emily Mazy branding us black fascists "destroying the unity of the working class." During this period intelligence had tried to send the famous police agent that wrecked the Panthers - George Sams, into our ranks. George would attend our meeting but could not penetrate our ranks and was sent to Oakland. George Sams possessed no skills and was not teachable. No one can just hang around "shooting the breeze." I personally knew George Sams because he lived in Highland Park, as did I. Highland Park was the home of our office and home to Henry Ford’s first assembly plant. Everyone in the neighborhood knew George to be a dope fiend who was shot three times for breaking into the local "Ma and Pa" store on the corner of Richton and Lincoln. More often than not degenerates and psychopaths are recruited to inflict blows against ones organization. However, these agents can only exist and thrive in an environment that nurture their personality and activity. Comrade, I write about putting the agent to work and teach tactics and method to combat the political police. You seem to write ideology. Now this story about George Sams, which has been documented, goes back further and exist on a continuum. Of course I am referring to Fred Hampton - the famous Black Panther leader in Chicago, assassinated in his sleep. Fred was proletarian in his core and was sent to Detroit to present us an ultimatum. The police agents within the Black Panther Party mobilized a furious assault against us for two reasons; first, we stated the so-called lumpen proletariat was not the vanguard of the revolution and put forth the proposition that the black worker at the key point of production was the line of march in 1969. The line was the organization of the black industrial workers and the formation of a League of Revolutionary Black Workers was the next historical juncture because it completed and took to the next political level the legacy of the old "Negro Labor Councils." _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Revolutionary_Black_Workers_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Revolutionary_Black_Workers) The local BBP chapter agreed with us because we made a decision to organize the local Detroit Chapter in our image, given the press the panthers were getting. Specifically it was Cass Smith and John Williams. Fred Hamptons job was to retake the local chapter and threaten us with force. As matter would have it Fred "hit it off well" with and took a liking to General B and the tension was broken with an agreement to surrender the local chapter to them. The threat of violence was defeated and the local Chapter would be taken over by an adventurer named Malik. The police raid against the panthers under Malik’s leadership and how we helped mobilized and break the raid it is a story for later. The next flare up with the BPP took place when we did a critique of Eldridge Cleavers book "Soul on Ice" and called it "Sold Out Nice" and label Cleaver . . . Mr. Clever and no more than a common rapist recruited by intelligence. Then there was the cramp about bombing the workers out of the plants because they - we, were not revolutionary enough. Intelligence activity has to be defeated and this requires thinking and coherent strategy. Here is what happened. Chuck Wooten was sent to Oakland to speak with Bobby Seale and Huey. Now Huey was privileged and believed in a certain kind of life style that included blowing cocaine and having female bodyguards, who would occasionally got naked. I suppose there is fun in this but creates the environment for dope fiends like George Sams. Huey explained there could be no unity because the BBP were dialectical materialist and we were historical materialist, "believing in the workers." In fact, he repeated this nonsense in his "famous" speech at - I believe, MSU. At any rate, it took an inordinate amount of resources - money, and strategic thinking to consciously break the maneuvering of the political police. My point is that combating the political police is an art. You speak of lawsuits!!!? Law suits? Perhaps, you are not aware that half the intellectuals in and around the League were associated with us based on having passed the Bar examine. Laws suits indeed. Surely, you jest. We get subpoenaed man. Now a huge section of the law community supported us because we were also the source of workers compensation cases. See, how the class thing and money works? It gets deeper. An aspect of electoral work draws lawyers sympathetic to the cause and aware that local government negotiates huge contracts of all kinds. Law suits. What happens at the next level may I ask? Here is what happens. You get off of work and are subpoenaed, after the FBI have come to the plant and march you to the front office in front of everyone you work with. This is what they said to me after the "jail house stroll." "Mr. Mitchell, our intent was not to embarrass you but we were wondering if we could ask you a few questions." ""May I see you identification please." The agent thrust his badge at me and I put my hand out to take it. The agent quickly slapped my hand when I touched the badge and I smiled. I’m real clear that this mutherfucker is going to have to shoot me in the back of the head. As I begin stepping backwards, one agent says, "We just want to ask question about the League of Revolutionary workers." I say nothing turn around and walk out the door. You cannot talk to the Fed boyz because if you say "yes" or "no" they are pretty well trained to get something out of anything you say. If you say "No" today, five years from now when questioned, if you say "yes," the Feds say, "wait a minute, five years ago your answer was "No," and then proceed to sweat your ass. If you shut up you can avoid all of this. See how to combat the political police? There is a larger context. During this period the Red Squad was on like everyone. The Red squad was a intelligence agency under the direction of the DPD - Detroit Police Department. This was the period of assassination, when the gunman aim would be slightly off and the guy standing next to you took one in the head. This was the period when a psychopath stormed into the SWP office on Woodward Ave and killed a couple of comrades. Fuck a lawsuit. Sue my ass and then get paid. I could easily go on for another 6000 words, but much of this is already in the list archives. Tens of thousands of dollars ain’t shit. It takes 20 - 40 K to train a communists and yes, we cost it out. Look, in a real intense situation one is not sued. During the first sign of trouble, you are arrested because your entire family has been classified as a threat to national security. During the early hours of the outbreak of the Detroit Rebellion - hours, General Baker door was kicked in and taken out with handcuff. He was driven to jail with a shot gun on his head the entire trip. We are not sued in intense political periods. We are shot. The state and splitting. During the most intense days of desegregation a section of the police department swung over to the side of the revolutionary impulse. The core of these police were organized within the Black Guardian. That is what the police who fought their reactionary copartners called themselves. In Detroit things got very nasty and would not be resolved until the mid 1980s, and serve as the backdrop for much of the drug wars and the reformulation of political control in the city. The reason we knew that the Panther Office would be raided within hours was from a phone call that originated in the police department . . .OK. You think organizing workers factory cells is intense. Man, let me tell you something . . . fucking with the police is scary and intense. But apparently you simply lack the experience and do not know. The state is momentarily at loggerhead with itself. The form of this paralysis changes with the changing forms of the struggle. Comrade when you state you do not understand what I am talking about . . . I in turn understand that because you were not at a sharp pitch of struggle to gain the experience. Why else would I write about the state polarizing? So that those not there can assimilate the experience. From a petty squabble about the role of agents in the murder of Trotsky, which I have zero interest in, my point of departure is to teach real history about combating the political police. Our job is to teach and transfer experience. Enough of this. WL (http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm) ________________________________________________ YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com