I imagine they were tracking your Rhino as you suppose, but even if the voice 
is scrambled, couldn't they triangulate you?

Maybe they just wanted to see who was in the area - which is probably why they 
didn't make physical contact - when they saw you were just "hikers".  Were you 
near any military facilities?

In Southern AZ there are many electronic sensors along the border.  We've seen 
helicopters come straight out to our location from Tucson, look around right 
where we were and then head straight back to Tucson.  We didn't have any modern 
vehicles, GPS or cell phones, so we assumed we triggered something.  The 
sensors were for intercepting both drug and human traffickers.  Whenever they 
spotted us and realized that we're deer hunters, they would ignore us and 
leave.  Today they probably have live video and sound.  There was always a lot 
of drug activity in the spot we used to hunt.  We've since abandoned our 
50-year family hunting spot because of the increasing confrontations with drug 
dealers.

Also when we cut wood out near Sasabe, the A-10's would "strafe" our trucks.  
This was 20 - 30 years ago and we just took it as them practicing on our "tank" 
- we would always wave at them when they flew by us and enjoyed the activity 
and didn't feel threatened - this was during the cold war.  Back then we sold 
fire wood to several A-10 pilots.

Stay safe,
Mark B.
Vail, AZ 


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From: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>
To: Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix


It looked obviously deliberate to me.  We all interpreted the encounter the same
way. Dr. Bunch thought it was some jet jockey trying to show off but this 
doesn't answer the question to how he knew we were at that remote location in 
the first place. 

The pilot completely surprised us.  He came around the mountain and we did not 
hear the jet until it was at our exact coordinates.  It was impressive how 
close he came to us out of nowhere.  The jet was so close that we observed the 
pilot turning his head to get a better look at us.  He hit the afterburners, 
then flew straight up and was out of sight in few mere seconds.  We did not 
observe any more activity after this.

We had not seen a plane or another car all day and we were completely out of 
cell phone range.  The only thing I can think of that betrayed our position was 
our FM communications on a Rhino with tagging.  Too bad you can not buy FM 
communicators with encryption any
more.

Adam










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From: john shea <bigjohns...@yahoo.com>
To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; "raremeteori...@yahoo.com" 
<raremeteori...@yahoo.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix



Adam,
A better question in my mind is, why would they send a jet after you and your 
group? 
If
they didn't want you there, wouldn't they send a helicopter?  Or why would they 
bother telling you that you are being tracked?
Is there a chance (just a chance) you have misinterpreted this event?
Hope you are well.
Cheers,
John 



________________________________
From:  Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>; 
To:  Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; 
Subject:  Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix 
Sent:  Fri, Jul 5, 2013 12:21:24 AM 


One more thing of interest.

Our group consisting of my wife, Zann von Hupe, Dr. Ted Bumch and myself were 
literately in the middle of nowhere here in Nevada on a mountain side and were 
buzzed by an F-18 jet. 
The pilot turned the jet sideways, matched our altitude and hit his 
afterburners just to let us know that he knew we were there.  He flew so close 
to us that we could see his helmet and face-shield as he turned his head to get 
a better look at us.

My question is; what device gave up our position?

No, we were not doing anything wrong and Dr. bunch was extremely angry about 
being buzzed so close because it startled all us and we could have lost our 
footing on the steep slopes.


Adam
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