RE: Cryptic in genetics

[morphmet]

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Subject: RE: Cryptic in genetics
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marko Mutanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <morphmet@morphometrics.org>

Dear Pablo,

I recommend you to visit the following web site:

http://www.ecbol.org/index.php?/xml/page/publications

There are examples of papers which have indicated the existence of
genetically cryptic (cryptic at least in barcodes, COI sequence) species.
See for example a paper by Kaila & Ståhls.

Good luck!

Marko Mutanen

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Subject: Cryptic in genetics
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:41:45 -0400
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Dear colleagues,

Besides the problem behind species concepts and aesthetic
(non-scientific) values for particular kinds of phylogenetic and
taxonomic characters, I am currently searching for published examples
where the species is cryptic from the genetic perspective but
recognizable (different) from the morphological perspective. This is a
counter-current example which is apparently very difficult to find.

An interesting example is the evidence presented by Jeffrey Schwartz on
his book: "The Red Ape: Orangutans and Human Origins" where he contests
current genetic evidence upon the common origin shared by chimps and
humans, arguing instead for the orangutan.

I will appreciate any published studies suggesting morphological
evidence for species lineage independence (i.e. species) opposing
genetic evidence of single lineages (genetically cryptic).

Thanks

Pablo

Pablo Jarrin
Ph. D. candidate
Dept. of Biology / Boston University
M. A. Ecology Behavior and Evolution
Boston Univ.
Director
Yasuni Research Station
Escuela de Ciencias Biológicas
Pont. Univ. Católica del Ecuador.






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