Thanks Andy and AMEN! Can we all move on now? Maybe this would be a good issue with which to agree to disagree. Besides, didn't I see a request from the list manager to pause on this subject?
Heidi Quezada Standish On 12/10/05, Andy Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are all the same voices saying the same things over and again believing > somehow our positions will be contagious to our opposition. > > Smoking is dangerous to others as well as ourselves. > > So what? Don't tell me what I can do or not do. > > But what you do is affecting me and others. > > So what? It's your choice to be in this cloud. > > No. You're saying I have to tolerate this in a public place because you > want > "freedom." > > So what? It's a private place and the owner can allow whatever he/she > wants. > > No. The health of his/her employees and customers who don't smoke is as > much > the owner's responsibility as the right to do business, and more important > than the desire to allow smoking. > > So what? It's all a matter of choice and you should all butt out.Smoking > bans are destroying legitimate business. > > No. You choose to do business with the public you have a responsibility > for > protecting that public when they enter your place of business‹just as much > as the safety of the food and the storage and the surfaces subject to > contamination. Besides, all evidence points to just the opposite ‹ > businesses are not closing because of the bans; they're thriving, except > for > those that are mismanaged in other ways, probably relying too much on > alcohol to offset lousy money-handling. > > So what? The state, the government has no business telling bar owners and > smokers how to run their lives. > ---- > Full circle. Same stuff over and over. From all the same people, including > yours truly. It will ever be thus. > > Fortunately, smoking ban opponents are whistling in the shower. The 80% of > non-smokers who prefer clean air will prevail ‹ by law and by preference. > The bar-owners and libertarians will conform or shut down. Better for all. > > Happy to close out my contributions. > > Andy Driscoll > Saint Paul > -- >
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