Katrin,

It is not good practice to add a small quantity to the prediction to avoid numerical errors. Stuart Beal (the original developer of NONMEM) wrote this comment in 2004:

"..., this will very often alter the results, especially when during  the  
Estimation  Step  parameter
values  are  considered that lead to smaller values of F than might be 
imagined."

http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/nm/98feb112004.html

He supplies some workarounds which you may wish to consider.

You may also wish to use a more realistic error model that includes an additive component that would be appropriate for a concentration approaching zero. All real measurements will have some noise when the true value is zero.

Best wishes,

Nick

On 18-Dec-16 07:46, Katrin Volz wrote:

Hey Rob,

Thank a lot. It seems to work well.

I´m quite happy with this log transformation :)

And yes, thanks for clarifying that I have to take the natural logarithm.

Cheers

Katrin

*Von:*owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] *Im Auftrag von *r.terhe...@radboudumc.nl
*Gesendet:* 16 December 2016 11:24
*An:* ankekatrin.v...@uni-saarland.de; nmusers@globomaxnm.com
*Betreff:* RE: [NMusers] $Error log transformed

Hi Katrin,

You’ll have to take the natural logarithm of your DVs

I would change your error block to:

$ERROR

IPRED=LOG(F+1E-16) ; Protection against LOG(0) in case of dosing events etc

Y=IPRED+ERR(1) ; FOR PROPORTIAL ERROR

Cheers!

Rob

*Van:*owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com <mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com> [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] *Namens *Katrin Volz
*Verzonden:* vrijdag 16 december 2016 10:35
*Aan:* nmusers@globomaxnm.com <mailto:nmusers@globomaxnm.com>
*Onderwerp:* [NMusers] $Error log transformed

Dear All,

I would like to model my data log transformed.

So far, I already found some suggestions for this problem here but none of them worked in my case - probably I did sth. wrong.

I would be very happy if someone could help me with changing my error model, which I assume has to be changed.

(I also assume that the dataset has to be changed from DV to LOG(DV)?)

So, here is the code I used so far (not log transformed):

$ERROR

IPRED = F ;IPRED drug in the central compartment

IF (CMT.EQ.5) IPRED = A(5)    ;IPRED second drug in 5th compartment

DEL=0

IF (IPRED.EQ.0) DEL=0.0001

W     = F

IRES  = DV - IPRED

IWRES = IRES /(W + DEL)

Y = IPRED + IPRED * EPS(1) ; error drug in the central compartment

IF (CMT.EQ.5) Y = IPRED + IPRED * EPS(2) ; error second drug in 5th compartment

It would be great to get some help.

Thanks!

Katrin

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