[NSP] Re: Extended chanter key positions

[rosspipes]

?With the practical experience I have had over the years I thought it may help 
the discussion to give my views on the problem of positioning the lower keys 
once you start to extend the range downwards. Even what you may call the 
standard 17 key that was developed by Reid had an either-or position of the C# 
and D# keys and then when Clough added the low A key it was open season for 
where keys could be placed. I have tried to rationalise the positions as you 
know recently as described in the last issue of the Magazine and it does make 
it difficult as a teacher to help students on how to play the lower keys 
effectively. 
Some folk,including our President, look upon this key position changing as 
heresy but you have to go with what players want within reason.


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Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Extended chanter key position

Dear Liist Members,
I thought you might be interested in the reply I gave to Helen re the key 
positions with the personal bits taken out. It can be confusing talking about 
key positions without diagrams so I hope any discussion can be as clear as 
possible.
Colin R





























































































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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:32 PM?
Subject: [NSP] Re: Extended chanter key positions?
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> The arrangement of the lower keys can never be standardised and it is a > 
> question of customising for each individual depending on the number of > keys 
> and the pitch of keys required. The alternatives that Julia mentions > are 
> ones that I have tried myself and each has its merits and drawbacks.?
> If standardisation occurs at all it will only be after years of > 
> experimentation or until a born again Boehm comes up with a completely new > 
> system?of keywork. Don't hold your breath.?
> Colin Ross?
> Master pipemaker and fountain of all knowledge concerning making NSP's(?)?
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> Sent: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10.09pm?
> Subject: [NSP] Extended chanter key positions?
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> Dear list?
>?
> I have an order in my queue for an extended chanter with the bottom?
> notes to be low A, B, C and C#. Obviously there are several ways of?
> doing this. I'm aware that some arrangements are better for some?
> tunes, whilst others are better for others - there's probably no?
> absolute right answer.?
> Since I myself play a very non-standard arrangement due to being?
> digitally challenged, I am ill placed to assess the "best" (in the?
> sense of works best) arrangement for a normal piper, if there is such?
> an animal.?
>?
> So I'm canvassing for opinions.?
>?
> Are two keys operated by the little finger desirable, or would it?
> better to have one, with 3 across the back??
>?
> So far, I've thought of 2 main alternatives:?
>?
> C# & E on the little finger, A & B on the back, C& D on the thumb?
> side?
> E only on the little finger, ABC across the back, C#, D on the thumb?
> (and of course different permutations of this triple are possible)?
>?
> What do pipers who play these prefer, in use? Do you have one that?
> you now wish was different??
>?
> Thank you for any opinions - if posted on list the customer will see?
> them too.?
>?
> Julia Say?
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