Indeed. Thanks from me as well. -- Espi
On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote: > Interesting read. Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM > To: ntsysadm > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/ > securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations > https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss < > km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > > What are those again? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > > To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access > Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > > > > Kurt > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss < > km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > >> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it > is to build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI > will prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as > much as possible. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean > running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI > tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a > matter of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The > transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe > people who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. > >> > >> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not > call that new. > >> -Matt > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. > >> Moss > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my > group who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a > DNNizen, and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). > Why run ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when > PHP was born on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when > dealing with creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at > current stats. I tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I > should, for the most part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up > with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue > is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s > that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you > choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, > so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F > >> Sullivan > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant > was that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, > thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. > >> > >> > >> > >> As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what > platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas > >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> > >> > >> You can run linux without a gui. > >> > >> > >> > >> Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" < > charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >: > >> > >> Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows > without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” > >> > >> > >> > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss > >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists. > myitforum.com> > >> Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> > >> > >> Hey all, > >> > >> Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard > the argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use > linux? What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just > arguing preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e > been wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say. > >> > > > > > > >