Who was just on a list asking for help with VMware configuration? Hmmmm?

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Kurt

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Webster <webs...@carlwebster.com> wrote:

> Everyone has their faults. 😊
>
>
> Webster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] A new task for me - setting up a SQL Server
> cluster on vSphere 6.0
>
> Yes, it will work.
>
> I cannot say anything whatsoever about VMware. I'm a Hyper-V guy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:18 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A new task for me - setting up a SQL Server
> cluster on vSphere 6.0
>
> Right. Server Datacenter. Knew that. Habit to type Enterprise.
>
> The rest is stuff I'm trying to figure out, since I haven't played around
> much with real SQL Server since the 2000 edition, and not even much with
> Express since then.
>
> We are planning a 2-node cluster, so it sounds like Windows Server
> 2016 Standard and SQL Server 2016 (2017?) Standard will do exactly what we
> want.
>
> We do have restrictions in our EA regarding the number of licenses for SQL
> Server (2), and we also want to reduce the clutter of old versions of SQL
> Standard and SQL Express scattered amongst our servers.
>
> I intend to deploy on our VMware cluster (vSphere 6.0 Standard, 6 nodes,
> backed by a Nimble SAN), unless testing indicates it's a bad fit.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>
> wrote:
> > I think y’all are confusing yourselves. Words mean things.
> >
> >
> >
> > For the purposes of this discussion, there is no such thing as
> > “Windows Server Enterprise”.
> >
> >
> >
> > The editions are Windows Server Standard and Windows Server Datacenter.
> > Since Windows Server 2012, both Standard and Datacenter include
> > Windows Failover Clustering (WFC). (So does Nano Server in Windows
> > Server 2016, but I digress.)
> >
> >
> >
> > There ARE features that a SQL installation may want to use, such as
> > SOFS (Scale-Out File Servers), that may require Windows Server
> > Datacenter; but WFC itself does not require Datacenter.
> >
> >
> >
> > SQL Server also comes in two editions, for the purposes of this
> discussion.
> > They are Standard and Enterprise.
> >
> >
> >
> > SQL Server Standard supports WFC for EXACTLY two nodes (this is also
> > called SQL Server Always On Failover Clustering). No more nodes than
> > two. SQL Server Standard does NOT support Always On Availability Groups.
> >
> >
> >
> > SQL Server Enterprise supports WFC for the operating system maximum
> > number of nodes. SQL Server Enterprise supports Always On Availability
> Groups.
> >
> >
> >
> > Define the deployment plan FIRST, then you can determine the necessary
> > software. Alternately, the licenses you have may restrict your
> > deployment plan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
> > On Behalf Of D R
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:00 AM
> >
> >
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A new task for me - setting up a SQL Server
> > cluster on vSphere 6.0
> >
> >
> >
> > According to the Techs and Sales people in my org, it seems that they
> did.
> >
> >
> >
> > They are telling me that every SQL Clustering needs Enterprise on
> > 2016, or it's a 'no go'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
> > <michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > As best as I can recall, it was listed as a requirement in the last
> > SQL clustering requirements doc I read on Microsoft's website.  I
> > thought it was up-to-date, but perhaps I am mistaken?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2017 6:55 AM, "Melvin Backus" <melvin.bac...@byers.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Windows clustering doesn’t require Enterprise any more. It moved to
> > std with 2012. We run both LB and FO clusters on 2012 std.  Please
> > don’t tell me they went back with 2016. L
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
> >          those who understand binary and those who don't.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
> > On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:24 PM
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A new task for me - setting up a SQL Server
> > cluster on vSphere 6.0
> >
> >
> >
> > The minimum requirement would be Windows.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Espi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Windows or SQL or both?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:27 PM, D R <drod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Well, for 1, I think you're going to need Enterprise Edition for your
> >> server clustering.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a good reference on setting up a 2-node cluster
> >>> like this?
> >>>
> >>> I'll be putting up SQL Server 2016 on Server 2016 Standard.
> >>>
> >>> I've found a starting place:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_U
> >>> S&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2147661
> >>>
> >>> This is going to be a replacement for all of the little SQLServer
> >>> Standard/Express/WID implementations we have scattered about.
> >>>
> >>> But - does anyone have preferred documentation for implementation?
> >>> Any preferred configurations, and perhaps reasons why? Any nasty
> >>> little gotchas to avoid?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Kurt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Rodriguez
> >> drod...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Daniel Rodriguez
> > drod...@gmail.com
>
>
>

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