If there is a broad consensus that 'Health' is a more appropriate name, then I will change the name. I have registered LibertyHSF.org for that purpose.
Anyone care to add an opinion? -FT On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Edmund Billings <[email protected]> wrote: > Health is broader and may be more appropriate than Medical... > > Medical connotes physician centered care which is just part of the solutions. > > Edmund > ___________________ > Edmund Billings MD > Chief Medical Officer > Medsphere > 1917 Palomar Oaks Way > Suite 200 > Carlsbad, CA 92008 > 760.692.3700 office > 415.505.8953 cell > www.medsphere.com > > "Transforming Healthcare through Open Source" > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of fred > trotter [[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [Hardhats] Re: [openhealth] Announcing Liberty Medical Software > Foundation and a petition in support of the current VistA as Utility act > > This is unlikely to be a problem if we simply consistently refer to > the organization as either > > 'LibertyMSF' and/or > 'Liberty Medical Software Foundation' > > please help me be referring to it that way. Once we have do that for a > while, the distinction should become clear. > > -FT > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:42 AM, David Forslund <[email protected]> wrote: >> My only concern about this proposal is that there is a company with the >> name Liberty Medical out there (http://www.libertymedical.com). That >> might create some confusion as well as some legal issues, but then I'm >> no lawyer. (in fact, when I saw the title of the email, I initially >> thought it was something connected with that company, which does a lot >> of advertising on TV). >> >> Dave Forslund >> >> >> fred trotter wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> At the behest of many of the vendors and individuals within >>> the community, we are now announcing the creation of the Liberty >>> Medical Software Foundation. >>> >>> http://libertymsf.org <http://libertymsf.org> >>> >>> This organization will exist to be our HIMSS, our EHR vendor >>> association and, if needed, our CCHIT. It is intended to serve both >>> the needs of the FOSS vendor community, and the community of >>> individual developers and clinical users of FOSS EHR software. It is >>> intended to be a place where FOSS companies like Medsphere or >>> ClearHealth can sit at the same table with FOSS friendly proprietary >>> companies like Misys and DSS! This is intended to be a place where a >>> single developer from OpenEMR will be shown the same deference and >>> respect as the CEO of IBM. >>> >>> We cannot afford an Open Source vs. Free Software divide in >>> our community. That is the reason we chose the term 'Liberty' for our >>> name. Openness is good, but it is not enough, we need freedom. But we >>> cannot go around having the conversation: >>> "When I say Free, I do not mean what you hope it means. You hope it >>> means costless. In fact I plan to charge quite allot of money for this >>> free stuff, but you will have freedom when I am done. Of course it is >>> -often- true that when I say free I mean that you can just download it >>> off sourceforge for no cost. So I mean 'Free-as-in-freedom' and >>> 'free-as-in-beer' at different points in this conversation and you >>> are expected to keep up based on context clues." >>> >>> The vendors are going to have trouble trying to sell 'free' stuff no >>> matter how you cut it. Also, even if we wanted to use Open, everyone >>> and their dog has an organization that begins with 'Open' I can rattle >>> off seven without thinking hard. When we previously discussed starting >>> something like this using the term 'Free' people got pretty huffy. >>> >>> Liberty is the compromise. You might be paying millions for the >>> deployment of software that you can download from sourceforge for no >>> cost, and that is OK but what you need to have is 'Liberty'. I hope >>> everyone is as please with this compromise as I am. We will be >>> announcing membership and leadership shortly, but you can be assured >>> the usual suspects will be involved or at least invited. >>> >>> Our first project, and the reason that we are unveiling this now, is >>> to activate the community in support of the Health IT Public Utility >>> Act of 2009. >>> >>> We have created a petition that we will be submitting to generously to >>> congressional representatives. (Just go to our homepage) Note that we >>> specifically choose a petition engine that allows you to sign with >>> comments, and those comments will be passed along as slightly modified >>> petitions. Essentially this is a way for you to both sign a letter to >>> Congress, and also send an individual note, with LibertyMSF doing most >>> of the grunt work. (Note: Dr. Billings did much of the content of the >>> petition in his letter published here earlier) >>> >>> Most importantly, you can forward the petition to your email contacts, >>> or your favorite social network. If you are reading this, and you >>> agree with the basic principles outlined in the legislation, please >>> take it upon yourself to get ten people you know who are not in this >>> community to sign the petition. >>> >>> I want to be clear: The only thing this community has going for it >>> politically is being right. The profit margins of the average large >>> proprietary EHR vendor will always dwarf the resources of even our >>> largest vendors. They can always leverage their vendor lock-in to >>> force more and more money out of their customers. We simply cannot >>> compete with their lobbying dollars. We have to organize and mobilize. >>> We need to reach out to the larger FOSS movement. We need to get out >>> local Linux Users Groups or Python users group or PHP or whatever, >>> aware of the basic tenants of our argument. We need to reach many, >>> many more doctors. We need to get nurses involved. >>> >>> VistA has proven that the only way to solve the problem of healthcare >>> automation is through the use of collaborative development that is >>> only possible inside the VA with a single shared employer who owns >>> everything or the use of FOSS licenses outside the VA. >>> >>> Please also signup for an account on LibertyMSF.org so that we can get >>> ahold of you. We do not have direct access to the details of petition >>> signers. Please email me personally if you are interested in fomenting >>> a local chapter of LibertyMSF in your area or something like... >>> >>> Regards, >>> -FT >>> >>> -- >>> Fred Trotter >>> http://www.fredtrotter.com <http://www.fredtrotter.com> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! 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