Maybe for standalone and hypergrid, but Windows/.NET is not an option for me
when my servers have to be published to the whole world.

Call me paranoid but I don't trust in Windows for any kind of server. The
experience (or maybe torture) in my everyday job with  Windows servers is
that they are intrinsically unsecure and have poor performance (unless you
have a bunch of € to spend in hardware).

My fear is "well, I update my servers now, no problem, everything is all
right", and 2 months later someone of the core team decided that "a new
thing from mono 3.4 is needed" and again I have to "run forward" with the
mono versions of my servers. 2 months later, the same, and again, and
again...

I know that is alpha, open source, collaborative and with an "as-is"
license, but, seriously, it doesn't mean chaos. I am really frustrated,
overall when I read a message in the list with something like "update to
version XXX".

But this is only my "user" and "utilities developer" point of view. I rarely
develop for opensim core, but I use opensim for developing applications...

Greetings





2009/8/4 Brianna <wwwe...@gmail.com>

>  For stability in the attic ... I have a hosted standalone OpenSim with
> .Net Framework that has been rock solid for 208 days, that choice is
> available.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Impalah <impa...@gmail.com>
> *To:* opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:27 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-dev] Minimum OpenSim mono version now 2.4? (was
> Re:[Opensim-commits] r10113 - trunk)
>
> Please allow me to be cynic but... For using/developing for/testing trunk
> Opensim versions I am forced to tweak my stable and well patched Linux and
> to include an unstable mono version which I have no guarantee about
> everything will work (maybe with 2.4, maybe with 2.5, maybe with future
> 2.9)...
>
> Too much unstability in the basement, even for an "alpha code" project, I
> think.
>
> When will be available a stable version for testing the new things (beyond
> 0.6.*)? Actually I have "fear of the trunk" and I am limited to old 0.6
> versions for developing utilities... quite frustrating.
>
> Greetings
>
>
>
> 2009/8/4 Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2...@gmail.com>
>
>> Ive written these instructions for compiling mono from SVN and the Daily
>> tarball for mono 2.5 if it helps anyone..
>>
>> Daily Tarbal : http://www.osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1334
>> Trunk SVN : http://www.osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=539
>>
>> while opensim runs well on mono 2.4 it runs a lot better on 2.5 trunk.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Ideia Boa <ideia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've these instructions for building mono  2.4 from sources on Ubuntu,
>>> very helpful: http://blog.ruski.co.za/page/Install-Mono-on-Ubuntu.aspx
>>>
>>> Ideia Boa
>>> WorldSimTerra <http://www.worldsimterra.com>
>>>
>>> orion hax wrote:
>>>
>>>  The repos only have 2.0.1 for ubuntu but it will compile 2.4 just fine
>>> from tar and SVN.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Christophe, Jean-Charles Narbonne <
>>> christoph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also there are repositorys with mono for ubuntu or opensuse, (I use
>>>> Opensuse for my server but on my desktop I tryed upgrade mono from jauty
>>>> repos, there was no other dependences than mono and it worked well for
>>>> desktop apps...)
>>>>
>>>> Reguards
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Teravus Ovares <tera...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whoops, scratch that..  opensim-libs, not opensim-dev :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -Teravus
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Teravus Ovares<tera...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > The HttpServer makes use of 2.4 specific things.    It's in
>>>>> > OpenSim-dev, if you can compile it with less requirements, by all
>>>>> > means.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Teravus
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Justin
>>>>> > Clark-Casey<jjusti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi Teravus.  I take it this means that mono 2.0.1 is no longer
>>>>> usable with trunk?  This is somewhat inconvenient since
>>>>> >> Ubuntu and OpenSUSE still ship mono 2.0.1 in their distros (though
>>>>> both will include 2.4 in the next release).  But if
>>>>> >> mono 2.0.1 is now unusable then that's just how it is.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm also not sure if mono 2.4 still has the 'mini-trampoline'
>>>>> assertion VM termination when many scripts are being
>>>>> >> loaded on initial startup (this problem isn't present in mono
>>>>> 2.0.1).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> tera...@opensimulator.org wrote:
>>>>> >>> Author: teravus
>>>>> >>> Date: 2009-08-01 11:59:34 -0700 (Sat, 01 Aug 2009)
>>>>> >>> New Revision: 10113
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Modified:
>>>>> >>>    trunk/README.txt
>>>>> >>> Log:
>>>>> >>> * Update ReadMe.txt to reflect feedback by testers
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Modified: trunk/README.txt
>>>>> >>> ===================================================================
>>>>> >>> --- trunk/README.txt  2009-08-01 14:26:00 UTC (rev 10112)
>>>>> >>> +++ trunk/README.txt  2009-08-01 18:59:34 UTC (rev 10113)
>>>>> >>> @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@
>>>>> >>>  == Installation on Linux ==
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>  Prereqs:
>>>>> >>> - * Mono >= 2.0.1 (>= 2.4.2 is better)
>>>>> >>> + * Mono >= 2.4 (>= 2.4.2 is better)
>>>>> >>>   * Nant >= 0.86beta
>>>>> >>>   * sqlite3 or mysql 5.x (you'll need a backend database)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> justincc
>>>>> >> Justin Clark-Casey
>>>>> >> http://justincc.wordpress.com
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