My "beefs"... personally, there are parts of the product that I would like to
see improved at a rate that is faster than the current rate. Service
Management (inc. monitoring and reporting) is an example of such an area.
There should be a recognition that the current maturity level of the product
"is what it is" and that as such, as a consumer of such a service you can, from
time to time, experience frustrations in using such a service:
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlazure/archive/2010/03/22/9982979.aspx
I understand that, to mature such a product requires an effort in terms of not
only software and systems development, but also importantly in marketing,
documentation, and support services as well. And to raise the maturity level
from where it currently sits will take some time.
It is some of these issues - and through concentrated use of the service and
its features - that I have experienced some dissatisfaction.
Our mileage may vary! :-)
Kind Regards, Darren neimkedarren.nei...@live.com http://2010wave.blogspot.com
From: steven.n...@readify.net
To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:14:50 -0700
Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
I totally agree! I’m just asking.. what are your beefs?
One of mine is that SQL Azure is not so much designed for scale
out where the other services are.
Its almost like SQL Azure is after a completely different market
of consumer, which might be true.
Steven
Nagy
Readify | Senior Developer
M:
+61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name
From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com
[mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>> Greg, do you think we can get some involvement from them
here?
More
engagement is always a good thing - especially within AU.
And
in re-reading your opening couple of sentences there Steve (heck... I thought
you were a blue badge for a second there mate! :)) let's keep an open mind
about the quality of the system that we are experiencing. Let's not be
afraid to make critical assessments as to the state of play. And let's
all play together for the betterment of the product.
It's
in nobody's interest - especially a product evangelist's - for us to be shills
and simply pretend that everything is fine.
At
the end of the day I'd ask myself this... how much of my own money (mine or my
businesses) am I likely to put on the table for Azure. And what needs to
improve before that amount might be increased.
Kind Regards,
Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com
http://2010wave.blogspot.com
From: steven.n...@readify.net
To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:40:21 -0700
Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
Hi Darren,
There are many ways in which to supply feedback to the team.
Currently you can ‘request features’ and the team also has had online open chat
sessions before. I’ve found these sessions to be very telling because a lot of
cloud enthusiasts have really pushed hard on certain issues. I’m not sure if
anyone from the development teams are actually on this list (like Jim, Steve,
etc) but would be nice if they were. Greg, do you think we can get some
involvement from them here?
And Darren, what exactly is your perception of how things have
gone? I’d like to see how it aligns with my own, given I haven’t been to a PDC
or MIX and my only contact mechanism with the team is through social media.
Cheers,
Steven Nagy
Readify | Senior Developer
M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name
From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com
[mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 1:36 PM
To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
In
all seriousness though Greg, I think that some more transparency about some of
this stuff could have helped, and not hindered the perception of how certain
things have gone by people such as myself. At the end of the day, is
there discussion about these things within the realm of the social media - yes;
but is that *the* appropriate medium for communicating to your target audience
about the state of the product... probably not.
And
on the topic of help, if there are genuine areas in which you guys need any
help or feedback *and* you are prepared to deal with the feedback in a
transparent and honest manner... then I'm always available. As I always
say... my supply of opinions is nearly limitless!
Kind Regards,
Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com
http://2010wave.blogspot.com
From: darren.nei...@live.com
To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:56:10 -0700
Oh I don't want to actually *do* any work... I just want to express my right to
complain about the work of others :-)
Kind Regards,
Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com
http://2010wave.blogspot.com
> From: gwil...@microsoft.com
> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:20:30 +0000
>
> Full-text search is not currently supported in SQL Azure. It is planned in
future releases.
> One of the first places to watch for confirm of new functionality in the
SQL Azure releases is the team blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/ssds/
>
> They are also recruiting Darren so you can go and help them finish the job
☺
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Willis
> Email: gwil...@microsoft.com
>
> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com
> [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com]
On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 10:58 AM
> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>
> Thanks Greg, it's good to see that you guys are taking the time to present
the information in a more understandable format. It would have been nice
if you'd finished building it before you started charging for it though.
>
> Also, if I click on the Products tab I get some nice marketing information
about each product, but it's not easy to see what specific features I am or am
not getting. If I look at the SQL Azure product sheet it's not clear
as to what functionality is included. For example is Full Text Search
included yet - the Wikipedia page talks about search being included but it
wasn't there when I last used the product back in December.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Darren Neimke
> darren.nei...@live.com
> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> > From: gwil...@microsoft.com
> > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
> > Subject: Azure in Australia
> > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:39:32 +0000
> >
> > As we’re apparently lacking Azure content for this list (☺) you might be
interested to know Azure will be available for Australia just after Easter.
> > You can see all of the ways you can get access after release here:
http://www.windowsazure.com/offers and local AUD pricing.
> >
> > Greg Willis
> > Windows Azure Evangelism Lead, Microsoft Australia
> > Email: gwil...@microsoft.com Twitter: @gwillis
> > Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/gwillis
> > LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/gwillis
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