I should point out the significant but possibly overlooked statement: "kilojoules _absorbed_ from food" as opposed to "consumed". They are different. The path a particular chemical takes in our body ultimately doesn't matter. If the useful energy we ultimately get from everything we eat is greater than what we use, we will gain weight. If it's less, we will lose weight. There's no way around this. If there was, you would be a perpetual motion machine.
Of course, there are other considerations here. Namely health. Eating nothing but 8700 kJ of glucose every day will not end well. I personally found I was forced to eat much healthier to achieve my kilojoule targets while still having a reasonable meal. Food with high glucose made me hungry quicker so I avoided it, etc. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 20 June 2017 at 15:48, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I was a wee lad I remember doing science experiments that showed that > not all compounds were equal, and some chemical reactions produced more > energy than others. If you consume food that doesn't digest it might have > lots of calories but you won't be consuming any of those calories. So this > whole idea of calories consumed equalling calories stored or used doesn't > actually make sense to me. It's the compounds that count and the chemical > reactions on those compounds. Glucose gets metabolised all over the body, > but fructose gets digested only in the liver. It's a totally different set > of chemical reactions going on. > > On 20 Jun 2017 3:39 PM, "David Richards" <ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> > wrote: > >> I've been avoiding this conversation. I've had arguments with friends >> over this. However, I decided to give my two kilojoules since, while its >> OT, its very relevant to IT types that generally tend to have a sedentary >> life style. >> >> There is a fundamental law of physics at work here: Conservation of >> energy. The change in energy in a system (fat, glucose, protein, etc) is >> energy in (kilojoules absorbed from food) minus energy out (moving, >> thinking, living). It doesn't matter what your body does or what form the >> energy is in. If you use more energy than you absorb, you will lose weight. >> >> I've counted kilojoules, tracked exercise and monitored weight. Doing >> this, I was able to lose weight quite successfully and with little >> difficulty. People mention hormones and starvation mode, etc. This >> doesn't somehow override conservation of energy. It just means you have to >> continually monitor how your weight is changing based on the kilojoules >> in/out. As your body becomes more efficient at absorbing energy and more >> efficient at living, you will need to decrease the kilojoules in to >> compensate. >> >> My anecdotal example: I would set a target average daily kilojoule >> intake (averaged over each week) and monitor my weight. When it stopped >> going down, I decrease my target daily average until I started losing >> weight again. When I started, my daily target was around 8000 kJ (before >> that I was eating closer to 10000 kJ). By the time I got to my target >> weight, I had decreased it to 6000 kJ. I was less hungry, had more energy, >> ate healthier and spent less money on food. >> >> David >> >> "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes >> will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" >> -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama >> >> On 20 June 2017 at 14:32, Bec C <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'd have to respectfully disagree. Tried it and lost weight. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price <step...@lythixdesigns.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>> If you cut calories and have any carbs in your system then you will >>>> have insulin in your system and your body will be in storing mode. >>>> Impossible to lose ANY weight if you are only storing. >>>> >>>> To bring it back on topic for the list it would be like being only able >>>> to append records to a database table and not be able to delete. If you can >>>> never delete then its impossible to make the table smaller. >>>> >>>> Insulin = store only. >>>> >>>> It's hormonal not caloric. You would put weight on if your lower >>>> calories were high carb/sugars. Try it. >>>> >>>> >>>>
