Nice post Jordan ;) My thoughts personally is there is room for both and I'm on record by saying msft should consider using sl + ie together to handle the html5 execution silently - it drives ubiquity and upholds both sides of the isle.
Wpf has had little or next to no investments beyond what the vs2010 team needed and some basics from variety of community sources if any. It's had zero marketing budget and wasn't even mentioned as a developer story in win7 launches. Declaring it dead is easy, burying the corpse is the hard part ;) Win8 team aren't taking bets on it so say what u will but either I am right or msft tomorrow makes an official declaration of how they plan to pump some momentum behind it. Either outcome is pushing the old with new forward for a greater good and won't be suddenly dumped on everyones laps at a point where it's too late to steer a different direction. Dead doesn't mean instantly gone it can take years - look at xp. It just signals to all "get off or else" is all :/ I am pro wpf / silverlight btw and want these to continue to grow -- Sent from my mini iPad nano (excuse my spilling and grammar as I have giant man like fingers and this device as small keys) On 15/09/2010, at 11:17 AM, Jordan Knight <jak...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd also like to raise some points RE HTML5 and WPF/SL etc. > > Back in the 1890's the head of the US patent office declared he was going to > close the office because he thought that there was nothing left to invent... > rather short sighted given hindsight... > > My point is that HTML5 will bring to the masses through standardisation the > features that consumers have come to demand thanks to agile plugins like SL > and Flash. To quote the SL team blog post that flamed the debate - SL/Flash > trailblaze and HTML5 will then pave the road. These features are already out > there and pervasive (demanded) - so why not standardise and give them the > ultimate reach they deserve! Bravo - it's a really good idea, and consumers > win. The stuff that was around years ago will now be available through > standards. > > But there is new stuff now... that stuff has been done - tech moves on. > > Where consumers *also* win is that SL and Flash are all about ideas and tech > that doesn't/didn't exist yet + getting it to market fast. It's a playground > for great ideas. 3D video. Surround sound, adaptive smooth streaming (for the > SL = video zealots). Multitouch, multi screen, multi bloody everything. Rapid > development (through Des/Dev workflows) + awesome tooling. > > Consumers like apps too remember. They would much rather read their EPG in an > app than have a link to a web page on their desktop. > > And what about other ideas that don't really exist yet. To say that WPF is > dead and/or dying - well I say to you - there is more to the world of UX and > consumerism than just the browser/current thinking. I think that WPF is > _still_ ahead of its time. Tech/devices are moving wayyyyy too fast for HTML5 > spec to keep up with (what about this cheap new device? > http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/microsoft-principal-researcher-bill-buxton-surface-will-be-in-h/)... > > I think the HTML5 vs the world debate is forgetting about the consumer > app/hi-tech/new shiny device market - it will/(*is*) be hooooooge! And we > need to keep the consumers happy (which means being nimble!). > > HTML5 is great, bringing what we demand to spec. Yaay for Vimeo working on my > iPhone! Plugins are great bringing us the latest tech quickly. And... as new > screens are added (Surface, phones etc)... then you can be sure i'll be > betting the farm on ripping out apps quickly on tech like WPF... > > Cheap Surfaces, every shop... WPF = killer. > > My 2 cents :) > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tatham Oddie <tat...@oddie.com.au> wrote: > Even as the web standards zealot in the corner, I wouldn’t agree with many of > Scott’s points. > > > > Jordan Knight and I just discussed the relationship between HTML5 and > Silverlight across two episodes of Frankly Speaking: > > > > http://www.noisetosignal.com.au/franklyspeaking/?p=256 > > http://www.noisetosignal.com.au/franklyspeaking/?p=260 > > > > -- > > Tatham Oddie > > au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 280 9140, skype: tathamoddie > > If you’re printing this email, you’re doing it wrong. This is a computer, not > a typewriter. > > > > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com > [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of > danlaz...@arcamis.com > Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 6:33 PM > To: ozSilverlight > Subject: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic > > > > Via CodeProject 'Daily News' (14/09/2010) - > http://www.riagenic.com/archives/363 > > > > Dr. Dan Lazner, PhD | Software Architect/Engineer/Developer > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ozsilverlight mailing list > ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight > > > _______________________________________________ > ozsilverlight mailing list > ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
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