Last summer in Alaska I carried both the 645Z and the K-1. Both made good 
photos. Both had lots of shadow detaiI. Each has its advantages and 
disadvantages, but I don’t think IQ ultimately discriminates between the two. 
Maybe a slight edge to the 645Z.
 I am not going to do any sort of technical comparison myself. However, I am 
quite sure I have a few mountain landscape sequences where I used one camera 
for a few shots, adjusted composition slightly, did a few more, left the tripod 
in place, just switched to the other camera, did a few more shots… So I should 
have some shots done under similar/identical circumstances as far as lighting 
etc are concerned. Of course the lenses will be different.
If anybody wants to explore an IQ comparison with those images, I can send you 
the original DNG files. Do note that they were not shot with such a comparison 
in mind. E.g., the shots I am thinking of, I likely was using the D FA 24-70 on 
the K-1 and the FA 150 on the 645Z. If anybody wants to spend time on this I 
will dig out some sample images and put them in Dropbox with a link posted here.

Stan 

 
> On May 21, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The DxOMark folks still haven't released 645Z numbers so other than
> tons of speculation I've read we don't know if or by how much the
> 645Z's DR might exceed the K-1 -- or the reverse.
> 
> I'm no expert so I won't bother speculating. I regularly pull
> highlights out of over exposure or shadows and blacks out of the murk,
> as you do with your K-1, so as one guy put it:
> 
> <<< The DR of the Sony 50MP MF chip - certainly as realized in the
> 645z - is "adequate".  Adequate for what? Pretty damn near everything.
>>>> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>> I agree that the sheer size of the 645z sensor makes it superior to the K-1 
>> in most regards, but does it have
>> It's dynamic range? You have to make some serious mistakes to lose highlight 
>> or shadow detail with the K-1. It is a generation newer than the 645z.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Luke; I'm a happy 645z owner. I have had in succession, a K100D
>>> Super, K20D, K-3 and now the 645Z, a camera which has become my
>>> preferred carry and handles 97% of what I shoot.
>>> 
>>> Using the same kind of logic as "going to get nearly the same results
>>> with the K1" you can easily convince yourself that the K-3ii is
>>> sufficient for you. If you can successfully follow that chain down
>>> then you should consider the K-3ii as it's much less expensive and a
>>> great deal less unwieldy.
>>> 
>>> The 645Z is at Pentax's extreme end of stepwise refinements in optics
>>> and electronics. If you need the resolution and dynamic range, then
>>> you will not be disappointed by it. If you don't, then go with the K-1
>>> or K-3.
>>> 
>>> By the way, what makes you say it's not a "true medium format"? It
>>> uses the same sensor as Phase One and several other medium format
>>> cameras. If you are referring to the specific physical diagonal film
>>> measurement versus the sensor, well if that actually bothers then that
>>> also suggests you don't need it. :)
>>> 
>>> I went with the medium format because of its look, and for better
>>> files for retouching. The difference is unbelievable until you
>>> actually work with it. Truly eye-opening.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Luke Johnson <lucas_p_john...@yahoo.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello all!
>>>> I lent my dad my *istD and haven't seen it since (think he's enjoying it 
>>>> and hes done A lot for me in my life so more power to him!)
>>>> I'm trying to decide on the K1 or the 645Z.I've always wanted to try 
>>>> medium format (although I know the Z isnt a true medium format.) But if 
>>>> I'm going to get nearly the same results with the K1. Has anyone heard 
>>>> anything about a 645z update/replacement?
>>>> I shoot mainly landscapes and some architectural.
>>>> Any thoughts / guidance appreciated!
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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