by Carrol Cox

Agreed, but that wasn't what Stalin said. (I'm going by memory here: I
hope someone can find the exact quotation.) He talked about how the West
had beaten "us" repeatedly through Russian history: i.e., the whole was
in nationalist, not socialist, terms. The earlier defeats (and he names
several) were not of socialist regimes but of Czarist regimes. And he
speaks of _Russia_ being behind militarily, culturally, economically,
and several other adverbs. He undoubtedly _could_ have written what
Charles writes above, but he didn't.

Carrol

^^^

CB: Oh I missed that in what you said. What you say here supports Chris's
position , I think.

My thought is that he was using Russian national liberation sentiment to
rally the people, in the way Fidel Castro refers to Jose Marti, or the Viet
Namese were carrying out a national liberation struggle too, harking back to
Chinese invasions for centuries.

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