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* From: Jim Devine raghu wrote: > As I see it, this is a genuine dilemma for progressives. I understand > and agree with your thesis that far-right lunacy is being actively > exploited for the benefit of the center-right. But it is also true > that far-right lunacy is ugly, scary and dangerous. So what to do?
BTW, we should remember that Beck and the like are also in conflict with the GOP establishment and could actually make the DP stronger. ^^^^^ CB: Some of the Tea Partiers are sincerely against the bank bailouts and put heat on some of the Reps who voted for it, but I kind of wonder whether Glenn Beck and Fox News aren't really pretty much with the Reps. Their "conflict" seems phony. ^^^^^^^ > I'd submit that the right tactical choice depends on how strong and > numerous the progressive left is. If we are strong, we fight to win > and not make compromises. If we are weak, then sorry to say, we don't > have any choice other than to embrace the lesser evil and plead for > kindness from our masters. So, just how strong are we? We can't take degrees of strength as fixed or think about "the moment" alone. If the "progressive left" is weak, as it is, we have to figure out how to make it stronger in the future. That doesn't involve backing the lesser evil (e.g., Obama) uncritically. If we back Obama's reelection, for example, we have to be very clear to ourselves and to others that we have very low expectations about what we'll get from him. Lying to others and to ourselves is self-destructive. We also have to be clear in the case that the reason why we're backing an evil is because the electoral game is rigged. More importantly, we have to figure out how to make the left stronger by working outside of the rigged electoral game. It's important to keep our political independence, avoiding co-optation by the DP and similar organizations. ^^^^^^^ CB: I can't think of much that can be done outside electoral politics or ultimately , if indirectly, aimed at elections that would impact the state power (?) Start riots (smile) ? I wish there was, but after all these years in the struggle, I just don't see much that, as you say, strengthens the working class politically that can be accomplished outside of elections. Am I missing something ? If "we" helped rally masses of workers, employed and unemployed, what would they be rallied toward ultimately that is not electing government officials ? ^^^^^^^ The point is to stick to our principles. My main principle is that the working class and other dominated groups in society need to be strengthened politically, socially, and economically, so that they can run their own lives. (It's really not the left that needs to be strengthened: it's merely a means to an end.) We should ask: how does a political action -- e.g., backing Obama -- strengthen the working class and other dominated groups? _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l